Talk:confusticate

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Sounds like a Bushism to me. Is it a nonce word? Google gives only 35 hits. — Paul G 08:43, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Maybe this is supposed to be the word more commonly spelled confusticate ? —Muke Tever 14:55, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

Quite possibly. "Confusticate" is a valid word. I'll move it. — Paul G 15:29, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)

The word is used many times in J.R.R. Tolkien's book "The Hobbit". Rafael Calsaverini 17:51, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

Citations

First Usenet usages found via Google Groups:

• confusicated: alt.rave - 9 Aug 1993 by a.stranger: [1]
• confusicate: talk.politics.misc - 7 Jun 1996 by Roger C. Shouse: [2]
• confusicator: comp.programming - 13 Jun 1997 by GraemeM: [3]
• confusication: alt.guitar - 22 Dec 1997 by Sorcerer: [4]
• confusicates: alt.tasteless.jokes - 6 Jul 1999 by A flying mammal: [5]
• confusicating: alt.tasteless.jokes - 6 Oct 1999 by Happy Hyena: [6]

— Hippietrail 02:07, 24 Jul 2004 (UTC)

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We are going to have a really hard time getting this word included if they delete the accumulated citations every time they delete the page. Here's a Tolkien one submitted by 195.225.129.197: #: "confusticate and bebother those dwarves!" -- The Hobbit by JRR Tolkien.

Kappa 23:55, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

• 2 more google print cites: [7] [8] Kappa 00:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

This really pisses me off actually. Create, find citations, delete, lose citations... Kappa

Just going through routine cleanup. Sheesh. I'll restore it now, but PLEASE add the citations to the entry! --Connel MacKenzie 06:49, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Usage note

I've removed the following:

The word confusticate is extremely rare in English. It has become more popular only recently, primarily as a result of its appearance in the opening chapter of J. R. R. Tolkien's book The Hobbit.

Not tagged rare, and no evidence of such, let alone extremely rare. Was popular in the 19th century according to Maven's WOTD, and The Hobbit didn't arrive "recently" relative to that. DAVilla 19:52, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Verification

This entry has survived Wiktionary's verification process.

Please do not re-nominate for verification without comprehensive reasons for doing so.

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confusticate

I thought terms popularized as "Bushisms" were supposed to be deleted? --Connel MacKenzie 22:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

It looks like the term was used as early as 1868, though I don't have the work cited to verify. 70.153.195.164 02:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

The word was used in the 1970s in the Rankin and Bass animated adaptation of Tolkien's The Hobbit (which is where I first heard it), so it might have appeared in at least one edition of that book. Sounds more like a resurrected archaism than a Bushism. --EncycloPetey 10:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Note: this has failed RFV previously and should not have been re-entered without three print citations. Furthermore, I erred: I should have deleted it on sight, no re-requested verifications. Deleted. --Connel MacKenzie 06:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

Restored as per Kappa's out of process comments on its talk page. <soapbox>See now, if you were supportive of Hippietrail's multi-level Wiktionary concept, there would be a place where the entry could exist and develop, instead of the all-or-nothing method we have now.</soapbox> --Connel MacKenzie 06:55, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I've added the Tolkien quote. We now have print quotes dated 1868 and 1937. --EncycloPetey 07:19, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

And a lot more now. DAVilla 20:38, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

RfV passes. It certainly seems weel enough sourced now to pass CFI. Dmcdevit·t 20:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

cite for "confusicate"

Is there anything to be done with this? :

• 1996 June 7, Roger C. Shouse, “Re: Questions for Hillary-Haters and Kontry Music Fans!”, talk.politics.misc, alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, alt.politics.usa.republican, alt.politics.radical-left, alt.politics.elections, alt.politics.clinton, and alt.flame.rush-limbaugh, Usenet

  Read, "don't confusicate me with any facts."

—Ruakh_TALK 19:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Just leave it out. I regularly trim my own work to those citations of any value. DAVilla 19:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)