I don't think this word is truly idiomatic in the sense of red herring, I would tend to classify it more as figurative in the sense of a tidal wave of emotion. This is clear from looking at older uses where it was originally a noun and did in fact refer to a better established school in one or other sense. As far as I am aware, true idioms do not slowly migrate away from their original - in this case still very close - meaning. True idioms are opaque, old school is quite transparent. — Hippietrail 18:14, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- I'll try to revisit this entry after some thought. The definitions entered clearly do not cover the idiomatic American uses (rap context especially.) In fact, the definition "out of fasion" is almost the opposite of the idiom's meaning. --Connel MacKenzie T C 18:49, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
- My thoughts is that "old school" sounds like "old's cool". And for me, if something is old-school then it means it's something that's a bit old-fashioned, but is still considered hip and cool anyway. Old school things are never uncool, anyway. Get with the pulse, HT! --Wonderfool 19:20, 5 December 2005 (UTC) (21 yr old British lad)
My elder daughter, age 25, suggested the term "old school" when I asked her for an 'old fashioned' word for Wiktionary. It was a fortuitous choice: the History of this entry shows continual refining and improvement; the rational Talk/Discussion is an example of what keeps me interested in Wiktionary, as is also the number of minds working ultimately toward the same goal. My edits [old school] today are only minor suggestions. My new entry at old-school is directly from a dictionary published in 1897, and appears to hold close to Hippietrail's 05Dec05 Talk entry [2nd sentence] above. Wayne Roberson, Austin, Texas 17:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
- Old school is a colloquialism that refers to a life style choice founded on a discipline for good living. Used as slang, old school refers to 'the good old days' of stronger social core believes, etiquette and manners that are perceived as diluted in the modern societal context. Old school imposes discipline by preserving and reviving an era, a style, or a value to which society has attributed a positive core belief. Old school values for example, are context specific perceptions of better values, the latitude of meaning still to vast. i disagree with the present definition of old-school as outdated or old fashioned, on the contrary it's all things (uber) cool.
Skersevan 15:24, 10 April 2011 (UTC)