Talk:outside

Latest comment: 4 years ago by Caeruleancentaur in topic Outside: preposition

In Britain, the "outside lane" of a multi-lane road universally refers to the fast lane, the one nearest the central reservation. This is, I think, the direct opposite of the American use. 217.33.74.20 15:50, 19 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yes, that is the opposite of the colloquial American use. More often, it is simply called the slow lane. --Connel MacKenzie 19:26, 21 May 2005 (UTC)Reply

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Adverb sense "On or towards the outside" and preposition sense "On the outside of" both make use of the noun outside without specifying which noun sense is meant, and should be reworded (or use {{gloss}}) and possibly split.​—msh210 (talk) 04:49, 4 July 2010 (UTC)Reply


Separately, a user opines here that the citation currently under the aforementioned adverb sense ("Jurgis waited outside and walked home with Marija") isn't using an adverb at all, but rather a preposition. @DCDuring, thoughts? - -sche (discuss) 20:39, 31 July 2015 (UTC)Reply

  • I've got to wait for cooler weather to face this. DCDuring TALK 02:24, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
    To clarify, I'm not asking about the singular use of they which is the main subject of the Wikipedian's comment, only about the adverbial-/prepositional-ness of [[outside]]. - -sche (discuss) 02:55, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
    Oh. That's just a question of whether we follow a leading reference or our typical non-contributing users. We decided that it was worthwhile to follow leading references to include the PoS header Determiner, partially because that PoS has been widely accepted. I don't think we can make that claim to combine such Adverb and Preposition sections, however attractive it may seem to eliminate the semantic redundancy. We have a hard enough time getting active contributors to accept that attributive use of a noun does not an adjective make. DCDuring TALK 03:25, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
And we have added Determiner PoS sections, but not eliminated redundant Pronoun and other PoS sections. DCDuring TALK 03:28, 1 August 2015 (UTC)Reply
Cleaned up. - -sche (discuss) 22:10, 9 August 2015 (UTC)Reply


Outside: preposition edit

In the second quotation from Upton Sinclair I believe that "outside" is an adverb. It has no object. How is it different from the usage in the first example of the adverb? "I slept outside." "Jurgis waited outside." Caeruleancentaur (talk) 05:17, 21 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Agreed. I cane here to see if Groucho Marx's famous "Outside of a dog..." joke was here but there is already a good example of that use, and I didn't add it. Wastrel Way (talk) Eric
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