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collapsing in mobile

Hi. Do you know how to push for making collapsing work in mobile view? If we can't make table collapsing work in mobile, maybe we can use the "NavFrame" framework instead, hmm…

--Dine2016 (talk) 11:39, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

I wonder why Wikimedia personally hasn't done anything about mw-collapsed. —Suzukaze-c 05:38, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Thanks, but it's been proposed before :) I heard that table collapsing wasn't implemented in mobile view because it would require sending extra JS to mobile users (and cost more data/money).
In the meanwhile, what about switching to NavFrame as shown above? The advantage is that audio now works properly (and can be moved to the collapsed part). The disadvantage is that we need extra CSS to undo the default style of NavFrame (e.g. gray background, smaller font, bolding of title, etc.) @Wyang, Justinrleung --Dine2016 (talk) 06:54, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
Maybe feelings have changed since 2012. But personally I wonder about phab:T31118. —Suzukaze-c 00:17, 18 August 2019 (UTC)


Hey. We're phasing out the headers "abbreviation", "initialism" and "acronym". Please give this a different part of speech. Phrase? --Mélange a trois (talk) 21:08, 2 September 2019 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Tea_room/2019/August#SOHCAHTOA hasn't come to a decision, and I don't know what would be good either... —Suzukaze-c 01:16, 3 September 2019 (UTC)


This may have fallen through the cracks due to everyone being somewhere else over the weekend. I don't know that these are wrong, but based on geolocation (England) and the fact that they can't spell basic English ("earthan"? Really?), I suspect that they've somehow managed to get something wrong- probably the definitions at the very least. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

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RMaung (WMF) 14:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

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What do we do in this situation, when extra information is added to the translation of a usage example that is not present in the source? If it's not a gloss, how do we format that? Surely brackets are not enough. ---> Tooironic (talk) 02:35, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

Sometimes I use {{qualifier}}, but mostly I just use plain brackets. {{gloss}} doesn't feel semantically correct though. —Suzukaze-c 03:02, 14 September 2019 (UTC)
So in what situations should we use qualifier, and in what situations should be use gloss? ---> Tooironic (talk) 00:42, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
I guess the template names are self-explanatory. —Suzukaze-c 05:26, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
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