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Wiktionary talk:Webster's Dictionary, 1913

This entire page goes against Wiktionary:FAQ#Writing_definitions. See: Wiktionary talk:FAQ#To cite, or not to cite Hyacinth 22:16, 3 May 2004 (UTC)

Avoid Webster's dictionary, Rosetta editionEdit

I looked at the external links section and spotted a link to the the Rosetta Edition of Webster's dictionary. From that website's terms of use:

Can I Copy Material from this Site?
The answer is no. Period. Please see the discussion on Terms of Use. Looking at the source code for even one page, harvesting, data mining, copying, saving a copy to disk, crawling, using spiders, snaking, reverse engineering, using bots, robots, winbatches, websnake, or similar programs is strictly forbidden and violate (sic) international copyright laws. We have copyright on all pages to prevent this type of activity which drives up bandwidth costs and put the project at risk. We cannot tolerate this bandwidth abuse. Only occasional use is permitted by persons using this site as a dictionary is allowed. No other use is authorized. You are obligated to read the Terms of Use before using this site. In the terms of use, we give people information on how to create their own online dictionaries or databases without harvesting the information from this site. If you want to exactly mirror this site on a local server, without any alteration, please contact Joelle Fabert (

Apart from the restrictions on viewing source and saving copies of their pages to disk (which betray, in my opinion, an ignorance of web technology), that dictionary is extremely hostile to wikification and, in my opinion, does not even deserve an external link here, any more than Microsoft deserves a link from GNU. We will need to be careful not to taint our dictionary with their content. --Ardonik 21:54, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)

If you really want to get the source materal, grab it from Project Gutenberg. All 43 MB of data, if you will. 12 MB as a zipped source. Smaller chunks are available as well, and this is all in the public domain. It is very likely that this is the source of the Rosetta data anyway. --Robert Horning 12:41, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
The above notice merely states what they shall and shall not give their permission for - I suspect it includes some activities (such as reverse engineering) which you can legally undertake regardless of whether you have their permission. --James Chenery 11:39, 29 May 2009 (UTC)

What is this site all about?Edit

Is it meant to give Wiktionary editors instructions on how to format stuff from Webster's dictionary to make it conform with Wiktionary layout? Ncik 04:14, 22 December 2005 (UTC)

This is about a public domain dictionary which entries can be used in Wiktionary, to expand it. -- 08:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Revised Unabridged DictionaryEdit

What means Revised Unabridged Dictionary ?. -- 08:27, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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