nobiscum

LatinEdit

EtymologyEdit

From nōbīs "us" the ablative of nōs "we", + cum "with".

Cicero offered the following folk-etymology: the normal word-order of cum nōbīs "with us" would sound too much like cunnō bīs "twice in the cunt", so the words were reversed. This reversal was then applied to cum vōbīs, cum mē, cum tē, and cum sē.

A modern explanation is that the word ordering comes from the fact that in Proto-Indo-European the word *ḱóm (from which cum derives) was an adverb, not a preposition as it became in Latin. As such the *kom could appear before or after the object pronoun since it was the object of the verb, not the object of a preposition. As these special particles evolved into prepositions this word order became archaic even though it was still commonly used. Thus the contraction nōbīscum (and mēcum, etc.) evolved into an adverb in its own right.

PronunciationEdit

AdverbEdit

nōbīscum (not comparable)

  1. with us

DescendantsEdit

  • Vulgar Latin: nōscum (see there for further descendants)

See alsoEdit

ReferencesEdit

  • nobiscum”, in Charlton T. Lewis and Charles Short (1879) A Latin Dictionary, Oxford: Clarendon Press
  • nobiscum in Charles du Fresne du Cange’s Glossarium Mediæ et Infimæ Latinitatis (augmented edition with additions by D. P. Carpenterius, Adelungius and others, edited by Léopold Favre, 1883–1887)
  • nobiscum in Gaffiot, Félix (1934) Dictionnaire illustré latin-français, Hachette
  • nobiscum in Georges, Karl Ernst; Georges, Heinrich (1913–1918) Ausführliches lateinisch-deutsches Handwörterbuch, 8th edition, Hahnsche Buchhandlung
  • Carl Meißner; Henry William Auden (1894) Latin Phrase-Book[1], London: Macmillan and Co.
    • domestic animals: animalia quae nobiscum degunt (Plin. 8. 40)