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Teqball in Thai edit

I came across the word เทคบอล online. Do you think the first syllable would likely be pronounced short? --Apisite (talk) 18:00, 23 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Apisite I'm not into sports and it's my first time hearing this word, lol! So, I relied on some videos on YouTube and found that the term is pronounced "เถ็ก-บ็อน" in this video and this video, and is pronounced "เถ็ก-บ็อล" in this video. Thus, my answer for your question is yes. --Bitterschoko (talk) 18:07, 23 February 2021 (UTC)Reply
I created the entry เทคบอล (tèk-bɔn) with your input. --Apisite (talk) 21:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)Reply

ปีศาจคอมมิวนิสต์ edit

Remember what I asked you about the treatise "How the Specter of Communism Is Ruling Our World"?

I found a Thai translation of that treatise's title: ปีศาจคอมมิวนิสต์ครอบงำโลกของเราได้อย่างไร.

How could the title be transliterated? --Apisite (talk) 10:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Never mind, it's as follows: ปีศาจคอมมิวนิสต์ครอบงำโลกของเราได้อย่างไร(bpii-sàat kɔm-miu-nít krɔ̂ɔp-ngam lôok kɔ̌ɔng rao dâai yàang-rai) --Apisite (talk) 10:39, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Apisite: I was going to reply that Template:th-pron may be of use to you. 😂

Phonemic
ปี-สาด คอม-มิว-นิด คฺรอบ-งัม โลก ของ เรา ด้าย หฺย่าง ไร
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RomanizationPaiboonbpii-sàat kɔɔm-miu-nít krɔ̂ɔp-ngam lôok kɔ̌ɔng rao dâai yàang rai
Royal Institutepi-sat khom-mio-nit khrop-ngam lok khong rao dai yang rai
(standard) IPA(key)/piː˧.saːt̚˨˩.kʰɔːm˧.miw˧.nit̚˦˥.kʰrɔːp̚˥˩.ŋam˧.loːk̚˥˩.kʰɔːŋ˩˩˦.raw˧.daːj˥˩.jaːŋ˨˩.raj˧/(R)

--Bitterschoko (talk) 10:44, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

Now the new Thai title is added here for everyone to look at. --Apisite (talk) 10:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
I have a comment, that I would like to have translated for the YouTube video I've shared with you:
"Where can I look for an online text version of the documentary series?" --Apisite (talk) 11:20, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

──────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────── @Apisite: It can be translated into Thai as follows:

"ผมสามารถหาข้อความแบบออนไลน์ของสารคดีชุดนี้ได้ที่ไหน[ครับ]?"
(literally, "Where can I find an online text version of this documentary series [sir]?").

This sentence may also be useful:

"[คุณ]มีเนื้อหาของสารคดีชุดนี้แบบเป็นข้อความ[ออนไลน์]ไหม[ครับ]?"
("Do [you] have the contents of this documentary series in [online] text form [sir]?").

The words in the brackets may be included or omitted. --Bitterschoko (talk) 11:58, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

I'm female. --Apisite (talk) 12:10, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Apisite I deeply apologise. I had no intention to offend you. Anyway, you may just remove the pronoun ผม or replace it with any other pronoun (such as the gender-neutral ฉัน or the feminine ดิฉัน, but the latter may sound quite formal) and refrain from including the particle ครับ or replace it with คะ. --Bitterschoko (talk) 12:26, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
You're okay. The Thai part of the comment has been edited at YouTube. Anyway, I would like to see how the following sentence could be translated:
"Communism, including its first phase (socialism), is an ideology based on destroying harmony among social classes and eliminating traditional beliefs and moral values." - Submission Guidelines by The Society of Classical Poets
Thanks for considering. --Apisite (talk) 12:34, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Apisite As regards your comment on that YouTube video, it is the best to remove the pronoun อิฉัน and leave it blank or replace it with ฉัน. As you might have seen in its entry, อิฉัน is now archaic or dated. As for the sentence above, I'll come back and translate it after my dinner. It's almost 8pm now (at my place). I hope you don't mind. --Bitterschoko (talk) 12:54, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply
Sleep if you have to. --Apisite (talk) 15:49, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

"Communism, including its first phase (socialism), is an ideology based on destroying harmony among social classes and eliminating traditional beliefs and moral values." is translated as:

"คอมมิวนิสต์ รวมถึงช่วงแรกของคอมมิวนิสต์ (สังคมนิยม) เป็นอุดมการณ์ที่ตั้งอยู่บนการทำลายความสมัครสมานในหมู่ชนชั้นทางสังคมและกำจัดความเชื่อตามประเพณีกับคุณค่าทางศีลธรรม"

A comment: Although "ตั้งอยู่บน" is a straight translation of "base[d] on" and is comprehensible to Thai readers, it sounds foreign to Thai ears. But I didn't rephrase it because, like I said, it's comprehensible still and I wanted to keep the original wording.

--Bitterschoko (talk) 18:32, 22 March 2021 (UTC)Reply