Talk:Carmichael

Etymology

certainly seems off. The Scottish Gaelic word for a stronghold or fortress is dún from proposed Protoceltic *dūnom. Caer is Old Welsh from *kagros, whose pages and variants certainly make it seem solely Brythonic and a nonIrish nonNorthern deal. Their closest variant seems to be cathair (fort, town, bishop's seat) whose Scottish entries claim it was an Irish borrowing of Latin cathedra and whose Irish imagine it comes from a separate Protoceltic root *katrixs, which seems to be someone misunderstanding a source that over/misused Xes in their reconstructions.

Note Kirkcaldy which proposes the same word as Pictish, which otherwise unsupported on the site. Are we missing a bunch of Scotch entries or we're repeating a bunch of misunderstandings of the fact that southern Scotland was settled by Britons and Welsh during the Irish and German raiding as the Roman Empire was breaking up? — LlywelynII 22:47, 13 November 2022 (UTC)

See Talk:Kirkcaldy, where at least one source views these as originally Welsh or borrowed from it. — LlywelynII 01:54, 14 November 2022 (UTC)