Talk:Wall Street
Latest comment: 13 years ago by Prince Kassad in topic Wall Street
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In the sense of the physical street in lower Manhattan. That it is the name of a street can clearly be identified from the title. CFI states "A street name that has other definitions, such as Harley Street has, is also acceptable." Does this mean that the street can be listed as a definition even, or only the other definitions with the street in the etymology? If the former, could Wall Streets in other cities be listed as well, given that the name has other definitions? DAVilla 02:54, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- That definition has multiple parts; the sense of those financial institutions on Wall Street seems certainly to deserve a place, whether or not the sense of the street does.--Prosfilaes 04:56, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. DCDuring TALK 12:20, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Delete. Must be zillions of streets called this. Keep the financial sense of course because it isn't obvious, and mention the street of Manhattan in the etymology. Equinox ◑ 17:42, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Delete per nom, Equinox.—msh210℠ (talk) 17:52, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
- Comment the eponymous street should be in the etymology section. Also, do the transliterations apply only to the physical street? That is what is currently claimed, so if the sense is deleted then so should these. OTOH perhaps the literal street should be deleted, while the "US stock market" sense is separated from the "big business interests" sense; the translations relate to the stock market, not the US-specific rhetorical extension. Jnestorius 16:04, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. The actual street in NYC has a pretty interesting etymology of its own, one not shared with the stock market sense. In addition, the second definition should really be at least three; one for financial establishments in general, one for those located in NYC (one might leave a small town financial agency to work at a Wall Street firm for instance), and one for the seat of American finance. Perhaps also some adjectival senses for all of the varied uses the term gets put to. My keep is really because there are some locations whose names are always understood to be understood. If I said that my life's goal was to live in Paris one day, nobody would think I meant Paris, New Jersey. If I said that I was going to take a tour of Wall Street on my vacation, nobody would think I meant the Wall Street (which is in fact more of an alley) in the town where I grew up. If non-SOP understanding is assumed, we should define the term. - [The]DaveRoss 17:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmmm. This might be an inevitable consequence of the toponyms vote and the enthusiasm for proper nouns generally. Little Wall Street (many), Wall Street West (SF, LA), State Street (Chicago), Montgomery Street (SF), Seventeenth Street (Denver), Marietta Street (Atlanta). There also seems to be no sharp line between nicknames of proper-named entities and mere definite noun phrases referring to them. See #the regions. DCDuring TALK 17:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- Keep. The actual street in NYC has a pretty interesting etymology of its own, one not shared with the stock market sense. In addition, the second definition should really be at least three; one for financial establishments in general, one for those located in NYC (one might leave a small town financial agency to work at a Wall Street firm for instance), and one for the seat of American finance. Perhaps also some adjectival senses for all of the varied uses the term gets put to. My keep is really because there are some locations whose names are always understood to be understood. If I said that my life's goal was to live in Paris one day, nobody would think I meant Paris, New Jersey. If I said that I was going to take a tour of Wall Street on my vacation, nobody would think I meant the Wall Street (which is in fact more of an alley) in the town where I grew up. If non-SOP understanding is assumed, we should define the term. - [The]DaveRoss 17:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
- I feel more certain now about the interpretation. Remove to etymology. DAVilla 09:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
deleted. -- Prince Kassad 09:49, 13 March 2011 (UTC)