Talk:alpha and omega

I don't see how this is "usually uncountable", or indeed ever. Equinox ◑ 13:20, 13 September 2021 (UTC)

@Equinox I guess if there is a collection of elements such that one element is both first and last, no other element in the collection can be either first or last. The suggestion of uncountability may also have come from the proper noun origin of the phrase. - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 01:55, 24 September 2022 (UTC)

@ExcarnateSojourner: I still don't agree. Suppose we say "the minimum and maximum", or "chocolate and ice-cream": we would expect then to say "are" (not "is") because we are talking about two things. Perhaps we could say "the alpha and omega is" but I think it's worth finding convincing citations (and not shitty outliers like Leasnam does when I challenge these things). Haha. Equinox ◑ 03:34, 26 September 2022 (UTC)