Talk:balrog

Latest comment: 1 day ago by 185.132.17.104 in topic Etymology

Anyone know where we can get a public domain picture of a Balrog (Tolkien's or otherwise) for this page? --Vladisdead 07:05, 27 Sep 2004 (UTC)

RFV discussion: April 2011–January 2012 (Polish section)

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For Polish. Maro 21:42, 10 April 2011 (UTC)Reply

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Etymology

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I recall this being traced from Sindarin back to an earlier Elvish form of vala "powerful? wounding?" + raukar "flame, smoke" -- ultimately drawing from real-world etyma, possibly the val in Old Norse valr (the dead, the slain, deriving from a PIE root meaning "to wound"), and the root of German rauchen (to smoke). ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 23:30, 2 July 2016 (UTC)Reply

According to
H. W. Pesch, Elbisch: Grammatik, Schrift und Wörterbuch der Elben-Sprache von J.R.R. Tolkien. Bastei Lübbe (Bastei Verlag), 2006, p.136
the -rog in Balrog is a shortened version of the Sindarin noun raug "demon". Furthermore, he notes that, therefore, the rules for au-diphtong pluralization apply, meaning the proper plural of Balrog is Belroeg. 185.132.17.104 23:00, 11 October 2024 (UTC)Reply
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