Talk:colorum

Colorum

The plural form Colorums is not used in Philippines and the word colorum means simply as “No paperwork”. the plural form of Colorum is “mga colorum”. kuh•luh•room as sometimes pronounced in most dialects in Philippines doesn’t only means stateless native Pilipino or rebels but also pertains to illegal activities without proper paperwork or no paperwork at all. Please update this topic(The Summum Bonum (talk) 15:34, 6 July 2024 (UTC))

@The Summum Bonum: Have you surveyed all the English speakers in the Philippines? The entry was created by someone who is from the Philippines and is a native speaker of more than one of the Filipino languages as well as being fluent in English, and it has a quote of someone using the word in the plural with a meaning that matches the definition we have. It may have other meanings, but that doesn't mean this one is wrong (see our Criteria for inclusion).

Besides which, the current entry is for the word as English. If you used "mga colorum" while speaking English, I'm sure people would wonder who taught you English. If they also knew Tagalog, they would no doubt understand you, but they would assume you were using Tagalog because you didn't know how to say it in English. If someone adds a Tagalog entry, it shouldn't have a plural that ends in "s"- but the English entry should.

Finally, this is not a "topic", it's a dictionary entry. It has a very specific format so that it will match the rest of the dictionary. See our Entry layout page. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:38, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

First of all Pilipino is the national language of Philippines not Tagalog. Tagalog is not the majority spoken language in Philippines it's cebuano or visaya and the rules are not to use English dictionary my input is simply to correct the information that is an improper spelling of a Pilipino word colorum adding "mga" is needed to identify a singular noun or verb or an object to be plural in Pilipino, adding "s" doesn't make it plural in English but a wrong spelling in Pilipino. The reason Pilipino will understand that colorums with s is plural because they know by adding s an English speaker is trying but incorrectly saying "more than one colorum", but what I'm trying to explain to is that it doesn't apply to all Tagalog words and to other words in different languages in Philippines. If you say "mga colorum" in English to a Pilipino he/she will know if it's singular or plural, also to teach another English speaker that it's plural because you added "mga", but if you say colorums to some Pilipinos they will not understand what it means unless you tell them specifically that it's more than one colorum. And also the Colorum is not a rebel group but a slang term to identify that a person maybe or is a rebel. Example: English singular word stonein Pilipino singular word is "Bato", to make it plural you don't say "Batos" to make it English and Plural form like English word stones, you have to write it as two words to make the word bato into plural "mga bato". English plural word "stones"in Pilipino plural word are "mga bato". Do you understand what I'm trying explain to you now. The person who first posted this topic did not specify and did not explain this information. And did not citate the proper way of pluralizing Tagalog or Pilipino words. If someone would add a Tagalog entry of Pilipino word they will not add a letter s to the word to make it plural but they will have to add the word mga. https://fluentfilipino.com/how-to-form-the-plural-of-filipino-nouns/ watch and learn. 2600:8805:4322:4F00:6DBF:1A1C:F674:FA26 20:45, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

Essential Tagalog Grammar : A reference for Learners of Tagalog

And Etymology of "In Saecula Saecolurom is in Greek not Latin https://en.wikipidea.org/wiki/Unto_the_ages_of_ages.

My Citation to the Topic regarding plural form and A reference for learners of Tagalog

This book is in English

Essential Tagalog Grammar Written by Fiona De Vos

ISBN 978-90-815135-1-7 ISBN 978-90-815135-4-8 Citations of the Topic (The Summum Bonum (talk) 21:36, 6 July 2024 (UTC))

From everything I've read and heard, Pilipino is basically Tagalog enriched with some things from other languages in the Philippines. The designation as a language distinct from Tagalog seems to be mostly for political reasons. Wiktionary doesn't treat them as separate languages. All of that is beside the point, anyway, because Wiktionary doesn't have an entry for either Tagalog or Pilipino- just English and a completely unrelated entry for Latin. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:31, 6 July 2024 (UTC)