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Hey! Can some admin check the requests page???? It has been multiple days. edit

????? TheguyinterestedinstuffIG (talk) 22:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@TheguyinterestedinstuffIG: ????? indeed! Is something bad happening? All I see looks normal for this time of the year. If you look at the revision histories, some time during January in the past 3 years someone has moved everything from the main page to the pages for previous years. The system won't allow more than 2 megabytes on one page, and bad things start to happen long before that- it's best to split off the old requests so the page remains manageable. People still work on the requests from previous years, so nothing is lost.
As for the state of the main requests page since then: you might have noticed that there are already admins checking the page, since two of them undid your edits. Equinox, for one, knows far more about creating entries than I do, having created hundreds of thousands of them to my 30 thousand or so (which includes lots of pages that aren't entries).
Don't forget that we're all volunteers, so people will work on whatever they decide to work on, not what you or I might like them to. I've been doing this for 12 years, and a few others for 20 years. After a while, you learn not to take everything so seriously. Things will get done eventually. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay. TheguyinterestedinstuffIG (talk) 02:36, 6 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So you like ants, do you? edit

Perhaps you will have better luck with these words than I have so far: mermithized, mermithization, nanitic. (The latter is not anything about the sci-fi nanite robot.) Equinox 06:02, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Equinox: see Mermithidae for the mermith- words. Such parasites tend to alter the physiology and behavior of their hosts. As for nanitic ants, see here for a definition. It looks like they're just a smaller type of worker ants that are produced earlier in the life of a colony. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:14, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Are you going to make me do the work? I think you are confused about the roles in this colony. P.S. Can you fix the ant-related issues around "Gamergate" on Wikipedia? Equinox 06:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I remember a certain, slightly younger Chuck Entz who cautioned me against assumed that any -id noun meant "a member of the -idae". I was suitably cautioned. I get DCDuring to do it now. Equinox 06:21, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I didn't start at the Wikipedia article, I started here, which is a discussion of the effects of these nematodes on their hosts. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:44, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Damn GBooks won't show anything any more. I just get a blank page and a warning that I WOULDN'T STEAL A CAR. Pretty much. Okay I'll leave these ant words in my list for a future time. (The anti- words were easier.) Equinox 06:48, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
By the way: you've been complaining about Google not showing as much in previews. I've noticed that if I use a toplevel domain in a link that doesn't match what Google knows as my locality, Google hides more. For me, that's anything that doesn't end in ".com". For you, I would assume that would be ".co.uk". If I remember correctly, it has something to do with international vs. local rules on sharing content. If you're using proxies, that might make Google assume you're from somewhere else. At any rate, I manually edit the url whenever it looks like this is happening. I'm sure there's some way to do it automatically with js or css. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:07, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
I discovered that if I find a desired text in a book, through Google Books, and then search for the exact sentence in Google (general search), it will find the book and show me the page, whereas GBooks won't show me it. That made me laugh. We must have at least one nerd here who works or simps for Google, so that's gonna die soon now that I've mentioned it. Also it isn't convenient. But: yes, you can hack, but how much time do you want to spend on it? If it becomes impossible to use a search engine, I will just go and write 8-bit games or something. Equinox 07:11, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
And that's not all. Sometimes when you get the "limited view" version where you can only see part of a page, you can see or you will be given OCR text that is on the adjacent "limited view" panel above or below, and then if you search for that text, you can get that panel and thereby circumvent the "limited view". --Geographyinitiative (talk) 08:46, 7 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

gotcha? edit

Sorry, can't take time to look up how to ping people right now. Special:diff/77620039 is because i wanted to discuss more than just your revert on gotcha. Felt rude not to address you directly though. Didn't mean to offend. --173.67.42.107 13:30, 13 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

A question edit

how do you add the transliteration for the "transliteration needed"? Basedborneoan (talk) 08:13, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Basedborneoan: See the documentation for {{head}}. In this case, you would simply use the |tr= parameter. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks for telling. ill add it Basedborneoan (talk) 09:38, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

An another question edit

how do you delete your wiktionary page? Basedborneoan (talk) 10:53, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Basedborneoan If you want a page you created in error deleted, simple tag with {{speedy}}, if it is an existing page by some other editor that is not clear cut vandalism/rubbish, sent it to WT:RFV or WT:RFD. Svartava (talk) 10:56, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
thanks for answering. Basedborneoan (talk) 11:02, 21 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

equinox edit

Could you explain why this edit was rollbacked? A Westman talk stalk 18:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Excuse me, I have a question. edit

@Chuck Entz I've been indefinitely been banned on Wikipedia. I am currently stressed right now and don't know what to do. I only made some small edits and been mistakenly been banned for my entire lifetime. Please I'm telling you please tell someone to unban me before that person bans me here or something. So, here's the confession you want. So back then back in late December 2023, I created my first ever account, User:TheguyinterestedinstuffIG, I didn't really know how'd I name myself only on this dictionary, but, then I made some "disruptive" edits, got banned 2 times temporarily, then you know what happens, when User:Equinox commented on my talk page, I felt, emotional, I felt like I had made a complete mistake. Then, I thought I'd just abandon the account forever, it felt good to let my past disappear. On this account, I made kind of good edits, but not to the standards sometimes, I was just like "oh well, just improve next time...", then fast forward to early Jan 2024, the new year, had good times, then I decided to go on Wikipedia, see what's on there, and make like 10 edits, but some minor edits later, on this day, I went on Wikipedia, to my absolute shock, I realized, I was permanently banned, no reason, banned my IP like I'm a crazy drunk driver for 30 years, I said, this is over, I'm done, so later I cleaned my user page, and saw your comment on my citations page that I agreed that would be deleted anyways, so now, I'd really appreciate talking to the person who banned me, and all of this, just, thank you. ~ Kindly signed by User:Heyandwhoa. :) Heyandwhoa (talk) 00:04, 26 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Chuck Entz Oh wait, I just realized the ban reason was wrong. I'm seriously not associated with User:Kindshowman, what do I do if I get a false ban??? (BTW read my message for context above.) Heyandwhoa (talk) 00:38, 27 January 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

How to do a mass revert? edit

Could you explain to me how to do a mass revert? User:Cpeng2 (and User:Your future self who, it seems, is Cpeng2's student) have been editing multiple entries to change /ə(ɹ)/ or /əɹ/ in the pronunciation section to /ɚ/ even though there appears to be consensus that /ə(ɹ)/ or /əɹ/ should be used instead. I asked Cpeng2 to stop making such edits and to discuss the matter at "Wiktionary:Beer parlour/2024/February#Changes from /ə(ɹ)/ or /əɹ/ to /ɚ/" but they have continued to do so, so I have given Cpeng2 a three-day block. However, I can't figure out how to do a mass revert of their edits. — Sgconlaw (talk) 12:41, 9 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

So, any advice? — Sgconlaw (talk) 12:54, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

I just went ahead and did it myself. For future reference: AFAIK there's nothing in the admin toolkit that can do this. I just go down the contribution list and right-click to open the rollback links in separate tabs, then close the tabs. That way I can keep from going to the linked pages and having to navigate back to the contribution list to do the next one. Chuck Entz (talk) 14:06, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Ah... I see. Thanks. — Sgconlaw (talk) 14:12, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Hey there! Why did you revert this edit? This citations page is not useful because it's not describing a word. It clearly says "It's kinda AC or DC" becasue of the slash, and the -ish means kinda. Can you give me a reason, please? Heyandwhoa (talk) 16:47, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Heyandwhoa: RFV is for the main entry page. We don't have a process for deleting Citations pages, and we rarely do. Sometimes an admin will notice that a page is inherently complete nonsense, or that the content has nothing to do with citing the entry or is vandalism. In such cases, we will delete the page. If an entry is created and ends up in RFV or RFD or if someone is asking in RFV or RFD for an entry that was deleted to be undeleted, that's when the validity of the cites will be discussed. Until such a time, it's best to leave the cites alone except for perhaps a little tidying or correction. By the way: you should learn to use the {{diff}} template, or remove the "m." from the link. I'm not on a cellphone or a tablet, so I don't want to see things in mobile view. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:11, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
Okay. Heyandwhoa (talk) 17:26, 10 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

About transliterations - κινούβοιλα edit

[from User:Sarri.greek] About κινούβοιλα transliteration, discussed at Beer2023 or any kind of similar situation. I am not experienced, and what I write here, may be naïf or totally inappropriate for en.wikt.
I propose a treatment of 'transliterations'.

  • For some languages, translits appear in the Cat.lemmas and have pages like romaji (ja), pinyin (zh), or serbian (in Latn).
  • For other languages such transliterations could have pages, but they are placed outside the Cat.lemmas (as here, for Ancient Greek, especially Koine, words which are not included in any Anc.Gr. dictionary (e.g. foreign -like hundreds of Egyptian- given names, place names and other terms).
  • For weird scripts like Hit. Mycenaean (gmy) a parallel index of redirects may appear in Cat.X lemmas, because noone can read the actual lemmas.

Here, Dacian has no script, and is written in Latn or Grek. Greek should also appear as unified Latin transliteration-redirects.

1. The Ancient Greek page. (Cat:Ancient Greek transliterations is not to be included in Cat:Ancient Greek lemmas)
The links-in-quotation indicate that the words exist in dictionaries (transliterations do not).
At their lemma-pages, a quotation marking may direct here: see quotation at...

==Ancient Greek==

===Etymology===
{{translit|grc-koi|xmd|<tr:*''[[cinouboila]]''>=tr (unattested term)}} Cat:Koine Greek transliterations from Dacian

===Transliteration===
{{head|grc|noun|g=-|cat=transliterations of nouns}} {{tlb|grc|Koine|type=translit}} = Cat:Koine Greek transliterations

# {{lb|grc|herb|type=translit}} {{translit of|grc|-}} a Dacian word: a kind of [[bryony]]
#: ''In Ancient Greek:'' {{l|grc|ἄμπελος λευκή|t=''Bryonia cretica''}}, {{l|grc|βρυωνία λευκή}}
#: <!-- do not hide --> {{quote-book|grc|author={{w|Pedanius Dioscorides|Diosco(u)rides (Διοσκουρίδης)}}|year=50–70 {{CE}}|original=Περὶ ὕλης ἰατρικῆς|title=w:De Materia Medica|section=book 4, 182 [https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6228793s/f39.item RV<sup>codd.</sup>] <small>[https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k6228793s/f39.item @gallica] at Bibliothèque nationale de France (National Library of France) vol.2 (1906), p.329 in ''Pedanii Dioscuridis Anazarbei de Materia medica libri quinque.'' Ed. Max Wellmann. Berlin:Weidmannos, 1906-1914 vols.1-3</small>
|text={{m|grc|tr=-|βρυωνία}} λευκή· οἱ δὲ {{m|grc|tr=-|μάδον}}, οἱ δὲ {{m|grc|tr=-|ἄμπελος}} λευκή, οἱ δὲ {{m|grc|tr=-|ψίλωθρον}}, οἱ δὲ {{m|grc|tr=-|μήλωθρον}}, οἱ δὲ {{m|grc|tr=-|ὄφις|ὄφιος}}  {{m|grc|tr=-|σταφυλή}}, οἱ δὲ  {{m|grc|tr=-|ἀρχέζωστις|ἀρχέζωστιν}}, οἱ δὲ {{m|grc|tr=-|κέδρωστις|κέδρωστιν}}, Αἰγύπτιοι χαλαλαμόν, Ῥωμαῖοι νότιαμ, οἱ δὲ ἕρβα κοριάρια, οἱ δὲ κουκούρβιτα ἠρράτικα, Δάκοι '''κινούβοιλα''', Σύροι λαλλαβιάρια.
|t=white bryony; some [call it] madon, others, white grape-vine, others 'depilatory', others 'melothron', others ophiostaphyle (sneak grape), others 'archezostis', others 'cedrostis', the Egyptians 'chalalamo?', the Romans {{m|la|notia}}, others {{m|la|herba}} {{m|la|coriaria}}, others {{m|la|cucurbita}} h?{{m|la|erraticus|erratica}}, the Dacians '''{{m|xdc|cinouboila}}''', the Syrians 'lallabiaria'<br><small>The text is different in other codices (foreign words do not appear at all). Compare to [https://books.google.gr/books?&id=Q39bAAAAQAAJ&pg=PA673 ed.Kühn, 1829] (editio princeps: Aldus Manutius, 1499).</small>
}}

2. The Dacian department of the page in its Greek script.


==Dacian==

===Etymology===
... as is

===Noun===
{{head|xdc|noun|g=?|sc=Grek|tr=[[cinoboila]]}}

# {{lb|xdc|herb}} a kind of [[bryony]]
#: ''quotation'' {{see|grc|κινόβοιλα}} or copy the last part.

===Notes===
<references group=n/>

===References===
...

===Further Reading===
...

3. The Dacian page in Latn cinoboila (unified transliterations for all) redirects to the Greek script. It will appear (in itallics) at Dacian lemmas. Because not all people can read Greek characters.
(can it direct to xdc instead of grc-koi?)

#REDIRECT [[κινούβοιλα]]

[[Category:Dacian lemmas]]

I cannot find a way to write the data with quote-book, and sorry for disturbing your Talk page with this long and probably useless note. ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 16:18, 12 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Issues with a certain user edit

Hi! There is a certain user who has recently been adding unattested Urdu transliterations of Hindi/Sanskrit learned borrowings. They're on their 3rd (or possibly 4th) account now (that I know off), as for some reason they like creating different accounts every so often, I believe. Normally, I have no issues with any user regardless if they're on an alt account or not, since I don't like to discourage people, but they're becoming more of nuisance than a contributor. I've purposefully not included their user accounts, but I'm wondering if something can be done against them, or if you've noticed them by any chance? نعم البدل (talk) 00:59, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@نعم البدل I vaguely recall seeing such an edit recently, but I don't generally revert content in languages or scripts I don't know- I did take a year of Sanskrit at UCLA 47 years ago, but it was all in Devanagari. Although I thought it was odd to see Sanskrit in Urdu script, I had no way to be sure that there wasn't a manuscript or printed edition somewhere with Sanskrit in that script that might have the term in question. As you know, Sanskrit is somewhat of a chameleon when it comes to scripts because its literature was transmitted orally among speakers of a wide variety of South Asian languages for centuries before being written down. We try to have the main entry for all of our Sanskrit terms in Devanagari, but I believe we do allow alternative-form-type entries in other scripts, as long as the terms are attested in that script.
I also have seen someone trying to remove any mention in Punjabi etymologies of direct learned borrowings from Sanskrit because they claimed that they could only have entered the language through some intermediary. I suppose they might have started adding Urdu transliterations to make a case for Urdu being such an intermediary- or they might be completely unrelated.
As for what can be done: I don't feel comfortable intervening, for the reasons I gave above. You should ask an admin who knows more about the languages in question. If you're asking me about using my checkuser tools, I can only do that if someone is trying to hide behind an account in order to get away with some violation of the rules, including to evade a block. If they're not trying to get away with something by using a different account, I can't do anything. If you don't think they should be adding Urdu-script transliterations at all, you should bring that up at the Beer Parlour, or RFV any entries that have been created. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:29, 15 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Chuck Entz: I don't think it's related to the Punjabi/Sanskrit discussion, unless the same user was involved that discussion too. Obviously, I have no issue with Sanskrit borrowings that are genuinely attested in Urdu, but it's these learned borrowings (which I doubt are even used in Hindi commonly) that are being transliterated into Urdu, that irk me. Nevertheless, thanks for the reply – I'll take your advice! Also, just to clarify, no I wasn't asking for a usercheck or something, I mean it's pretty obvious which accounts they're using. I was just hoping for an intervention to the user's edits – lol! نعم البدل (talk) 18:41, 16 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

!!! edit

And you wonder why people find Wiki editors to be militant? You block every reasonable suggestion and make everyone not in your echo chambers life miserable. You know what... stuff your wiki and stuff yourself — This unsigned comment was added by 2607:FEA8:3C81:3AD0:6958:FBA:FA3F:78A6 (talk) at 02:36, 19 February 2024 (UTC).Reply[reply]

You editted "Sapristi" and rolled back some good content. I was trying to talk to you like a normal human being on your talk page, per wiki instructions and another editor came along and deleted my message to you on your behalf. This is rampant censorship on wiki and it needs to stop. You editors need to listen to people that don't agree with you.

Please take a look at the revision histories. Your only edit on this talk page is still here. I made a header for it, and added a template to show who posted it, and when. No one else has edited the page, though I moved all the stuff from last year to an archive page in the meanwhile. I see no missing edits on Surjection's page, either.
The only thing that might have happened is an edit conflict: if someone else edits a page while you're working on your edit and before you publish it, then the version of the page that you were editing gets replaced by the version that results from their edit. If your edit was published, that would wipe out their edit, so the system stops you to make sure you really want to replace their edit. I suppose that that Theknightwho's post might have prevented you from publishing whatever you were going to post. I'm guessing, because it wouldn't show up in the revision history or any of the page logs. It's not something that someone can do on purpose, either, because there's no way to know that someone else is composing an edit- it's only when you click "publish" that it shows up in any logs or has any interaction with anyone else's edit.
As for censorship: I can't speak for anyone else, but I only censor vandalism or illegal conduct on talk pages, and you may be angry and rude, but you're not a vandal. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:38, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

No, you don't support censorship at all says a man who at the first signs of any conflict at all locked down a page such that no one could edit it. No, you don't support censorship. I got it wrong. You wikipedia editors are the good people of the earth. Sorry for the confusion.

"You Wikipedia editors"? You're as much of a Wikipedia editor as I am. This is Wiktionary. I've been racking my brains trying to figure out how any of the talk-page stuff you've been complaining about has any connection whatsoever to reality- but from your discussions with Theknightwho, I gather you're talking about Wikipedia. I have no clue about any of that. I'm an admin and a bureaucrat on Wiktionary, but I'm nobody on Wikipedia. I'm sure you love hearing from people who think Canada is the 51st state in the US about as much as I love hearing about how everything at Wikipedia is my fault. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:09, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

You feign ignorance yet you were the one who locked "sapristi" such that no one else can edit it. Then you're baffled as to why people get angry with wiki editors. Everything wrong with wiki IS YOUR FAULT. You ARE the problem.

Here, I found it in the log: Chuck Entz talk contribs‎ m 451 bytes 0‎ Protected "sapristi": Repeated recreation of non-usable content (... That's you, not other editors at wiki. That's you, Chuck Entz locking a file and then saying: "everyone is free to edit it, there is no bias at wiki" YOU are the problem... not other people.

You said: "I was trying to talk to you like a normal human being on your talk page, per wiki instructions and another editor came along and deleted my message to you on your behalf."
My comments were addressing that statement, and thus were only in reference to my talk page. I never said I hadn't protected sapristi. Please show where I said "everyone is free to edit it, there is no bias at wiki".
While you're at it, please explain what you were referring to when you said: "I was trying to talk to you like a normal human being on your talk page, per wiki instructions and another editor came along and deleted my message to you on your behalf." Nothing like that happened on my (1st person singular) talk page. The only way I can make your (2nd person singular possessive) statement come out as anything but a fantasy or outright lie is to assume that you (2nd person singular) were referring to some amorphous group that includes me and people elsewhere on Wiktionary and at Wikipedia when you said "you" and "your" in that sentence, which would make those 2nd person plural. Except you said "talk page" (singular), instead of "talk pages" (plural). Nothing you added to my Wiktionary talk page here has been removed. I do have a Wikipedia talk page, but there have been no edits to it since February 1, and none by you at all. What were you referring to?
You see, I may not be as open and permissive as you like- however you want to characterize that- but I make a point of not lying to anyone here at Wiktionary. If anything I have said to you wasn't the truth as I understand it, I can assure you that it was unintentional and would like the opportunity to clear it up. Mind you, my long weekend is coming to an end and I have a long day with a long commute, so I may not respond promptly, nor have as much time to compose a reply, but I'm not hiding from you. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:22, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
You are very clearly sapristi. Since you blocked me from editing the file... now you'll never know what sapristi means.
You can't see how people find Wikipedia editors argumentative and combative? I pointed out very clearly that you, personally, locked the sapristi page. It's in the log for the sapristi page:
https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=sapristi&action=history
I think I've had about enough talking with you. I've made my point that wikipedia and wiki in general is not an open platform. Your modified (correct) motto should be: "the online encyclopedia editable by leftists only" Thanks for the convo... sapristi... what does it mean? You'll never know. 2607:FEA8:3C81:3AD0:4105:C4F7:90F0:238F 11:48, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

reversions edit

Can you explain your reversions please? My edits today were very reasonable. 212.179.254.67 08:16, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

For set, you're removing grammatical information that's part of the definition. It didn't help that you called it a "typo fix" when it obviously wasn't. It certainly could be formatted better, but removing information isn't the way to fix it. You may be right about the fr-IPA, though. It's getting late here, so I'm a bit tired and may have overreacted. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:28, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
In "set", I removed an indication that the definition is only a past… but it isn't only a past. It's used in present also. 212.179.254.67 08:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
True. It turns out that was added by an Indonesian IP who didn't understand what they were doing. The ones they added it to were no different from all the other ones where they didn't. I've reverted myself. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

User A Westman edit

I notice that the contributions of @A westman seem to contain a lot of unexplained removals of text, where it would have been reasonable to expect a reference to some policy; other edits they reverted themself shortly after making them. I see you have already reverted edits of theirs to orange and equinox, and have the impression that similar criticisms could apply to many other edits of theirs. Should something be done about this? I do not feel confident that I can reliably distinguish which of their contributions are reasonable, but I have an odd feeling about their work. PJTraill (talk) 17:35, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

My removal of the adjective section at orange was an honest mistake cause by me being idiotic and thinking it was a copy of the noun section and I do regret it. If I do remove content, it is either because it is flat out wrong (e.g. bases tasting bitter, astronomy being equivalent to stargazing) or to avoid clutter (e.g. at great, free, honey) or to remove redundancy (e.g. at spring). I do make mistakes which I do revert upon realization. A Westman talk stalk 18:25, 20 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

φῦκος edit

@Chuck Entz I think that your reversions are wrong. If you read the references in Liddell & Scott and Beekes you will understand that you made mistake. The following links would also be useful. @archive.org, @epigraphy.packhum.org, @scaife.perseus.org, @scaife.perseus, @logeion.uchicago.eduNikos1nikos1 (talk) 06:23, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Nikos1nikos1: I have no opinion on most of your content, but Latin fucus is a borrowing, not a cognate, and {{also}} is for only certain types of near-homographs- so φύκος (fýkos) would be okay, but not the other two. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:05, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Chuck Entz φύκι is φῦκος in modern greek. I am native Greek speaker and I know ancient Greek very well. If you have any doubt you can ask for help from another user who is spesialized in ancient Greek.Nikos1nikos1 (talk) 13:35, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
If I am allowed... Kyrie @Nikos1nikos1. "Chuck Entz is never wrong!" The template {{also}} on top of page, as its documentation explains, is meant for homographs strictly. It is not like the wikt:el:Template:also, where we allow 'similar', 'relevant' etc. Also, cognate+examples is very different from loanword. The relationship of cognates is parallel, while of loadwords is vertical. enWP.cognate. Excuse my butting in. Mr Nikos has been doing a fantastic job at el.wikt, especially with quotations. ‑‑Sarri.greek  I 15:22, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]
@Nikos1nikos1: I'm not saying anything about the correctness of the words (I don't speak Greek, but I know enough Ancient Greek to create a very basic entry). This is all about the correct use of {{also}} at the top of an entry. It's supposed to link to look-alikes for people who get to the wrong page by accident, like English tap at Ancient Greek τάρ (tár). It's more obvious in other scripts, where you can have hundreds of different languages on a single page (see A, for instance). The top of the page isn't part of any language section, so {{also}} is about the letters, not the word. If you want to link to the Greek term, the best way to do that is with a "Descendants" section using {{desc}} (or {{desctree}} for descendants that have their own descendants section, such as Latin fucus, which is "descended" through borrowing). Chuck Entz (talk) 15:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

"guarani" spelling edit

hii! so, i think the word "guarani" should not be written with diacritics when in english texts. the accute mark on "i" is provenient from spanish spelling and it only works in spanish spelling. can i take the "í" out and replace it with "i"? Junior Santos (talk) 06:22, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

@Ovey 56: All of our entries and categories have to use the same spelling, and you can't just change it on your own. For one thing, it will show up in Category:Guaraní entries with incorrect language header and Wiktionary:Todo/Lists/Derivation category does not match entry language, among others. There's also a bot that checks the headers against the spellings in our modules (see our List of languages) and corrects the headers, so you're just wasting your time. You would have to ask at Requests for moves, mergers and splits to have the name changed. Chuck Entz (talk) 06:39, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]

եռիլիոն and քառիլիոն edit

the number data seem to be messed up somehow; i'm thinking it's an update error? i did add those numbers to the thingy (you can see them there) so i was planning on waiting like a day RagingPichu (talk) 08:46, 22 February 2024 (UTC)Reply[reply]