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Your reverted editEdit Why did you revert that? Did you hear the pronunciation in the sound file? Did you see google page I referenced (in words) in the edit summary?

Yaroslav Nikitenko (talk) 11:31, 5 January 2020 (UTC) UPD January 5. Do you care to answer? How to I complain about a wikipedia member? Just now I revert back my changes.

rollback of edit to notchEdit

I think your rollback was in error. I've reverted the rollback. Zeimusu (talk) 21:18, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

In hindsight, it was probably too extreme an action, but this sense of notch is probably better treated as an alternative form of nock, which is the most common term for it in archery. I'll bring it up at the WT:Tea room. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:39, 4 January 2020 (UTC)


Any chance this is BedrockPerson? I don't remember them using an IP, but some bad edits made me suspicious. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:35, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

They used everything but the kitchen sink, and the IPs they used geolocated the same as this one- Optimum Online, usually Oyster Bay, or Brooklyn, New York. See Special:Contributions/ for some recent stuff. I was going to mention it to you today, but then I saw that you had already reverted one of their edits, so I figured you were already aware of it. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:21, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
If you know, please block! I reverted what came across my path, but now I'll nuke it all just to be safe. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:18, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
Oh, and concerning overlap on certain entries with Special:Contributions/Inqvisitor, who I think is not the same person. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:27, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
No overlap on the back end. Certainly not using the same IP or device. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:02, 5 January 2020 (UTC)

Possible PaM socksEdit

Do you think all of these are PaM socks? There are probably more - it seems there's a new one for every batch of pages they create.

surjection?〉 16:43, 7 January 2020 (UTC)

If my suspicions are correct, I can start blocking new ones on sight. — surjection?〉 16:45, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
Yep. Here's what I've found so far (all confirmed):
Angel protpeyyu (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Arintaarintab (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Cluwdglued949 (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Dngwuufhuyey (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Drimidhalfdemonzu (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks)
Habbannezakiyaab (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Iskuqorroqk (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Kus55fazow (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Martam Brigmah (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks),Mitecrockuthown (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks)
Nmbg7t9 (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), PlHHY6b (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Patientluckywell (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Qarnigilixaadleh (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Ratherbgtfborn (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks)
Tufuoo00 (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Xaaladaamarabi (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks), Xawaiyobeeshasare (talkcontribsglobal account infodeleted contribsnukeedit filter logpage movesblockblock logactive blocks)
As for your others: I can only run checks on edits that are less than 90 days old, so anything before mid-October is out of range. When I have time, I'll have to put together a filter to tag account creations in PaM's IP ranges. There's a large body of known IP edits, so I don't need to dip into confidential information to tell you that their profile is ISP: TalkTalk/Tiskali/Carphone Warehouse, Region: Northeast London area and neighboring Essex. Chuck Entz (talk) 05:27, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
Now that I think about it, I don't believe the abuse filter has access to IP information for accounts, so scratch that. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:22, 9 January 2020 (UTC)


Why do you revert everything without an explanation? You are obliged to provide description to every edit you make. Why did you revert that Margarita doesn't mean Daisy? Do you have any sources to support your actions? --Dignitee (talk) 21:01, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

Do you have any sources to support yours? "Margarita" means both "Daisy" and "Pearl", with both being valid English given names. As for the rest, the rollback tool doesn't allow for an explanation, and at Wiktionary- edit comments are a matter of etiquette, not rules. I had no time to do it the nicer way. Sorry. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:49, 10 January 2020 (UTC)

One more thoughtEdit

Also he forged an unsourced connection between the Iranian word which is of Turkic origin and the Greek word. See manipulation? --Meatbowl (talk) 17:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC)

And the thought of the ultimate origin comes from Victar: --Meatbowl (talk) 17:33, 11 January 2020 (UTC)


Hello, what caused your edit rollback in the page Pridnestrovie? Pridnestrovian editor (talk) 17:16, 12 January 2020 (UTC)

First of all, it was ungrammatical and poorly phrased, but also it was really excessive. You did everything but say "they'll shoot you and you'll DIE LIKE A DOG, then THEY'LL SPIT ON YOUR CORPSE!!!!!" Wiktionary has a neutral point of view policy, and that kind of overheated, threatening tone is not welcome here.
Besides, most people outside of your region simply don't care, and if they see that kind of thing, they're more likely to laugh and make jokes about it than to change what name they use. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:44, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
And what did I write in a non-neutral tone? That this word is offensive and extremely undesirable for use in Pridnestrovie? So this is a fact (the confirmation: 1234), there is not a hint of any threats or emotions. But your version, as it were, asserts that there is supposedly a "real name" for this place, but the evil authorities of the PMR have come up for their own term for incomprehensible reasons and make poor people use it. Pridnestrovian editor (talk) 06:20, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Ἐπίγονος page.Edit

You are absolutely right, Mr. Entz. I just navigated back there to delete that in favor of later creating a page for ἐπίγονος, to find that you have done it for me. I cannot devote time to doing so at this moment (I am messing with the draft of a promissory note at present), but will try to remember to do so when I can. I did just create the English epigonous page, though; that was the word I was looking for as pertains to my document, and I found that Wiktionary did not have it defined (I also put a link to it at epigone under "Derived Terms"). I recently made what I think will be my happiest addition in creating the pages for roof tree and roof trees, which terms I encountered in a Yale Law Review article about the Lien Theory of mortgages. You must admit: "roof tree" is probably one of the most interesting terms of art that I am likely to find...

It is a day later, Mr. Entz, and I have created a page for ἐπίγονος. I hope that it is in correct form.
It looks okay, but I haven't edited Ancient Greek in a long time, so I might be missing something. As for my most recent reversion: on a wiki, it's almost never a good idea to have definitions in the "form of" entries, because people tend to make changes to whatever entry they're working on and not update the other ones. The result is that things can get horribly out of sync. By convention, we treat the nominative singular as the lemma and have everything there. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:47, 19 January 2020 (UTC)


The rollback is incorrect, though I'll grant I'm not sure what the correct way of specifying the etymology is. "Everywhere" is not a compound of "every" and "where". The 'y' is actually all the remains of the old english prefix 'ge-'. So the original compound was of the old english versions of "ever" and "ge-where", with "ge-" acting as an intensifier.

Perhaps. However, the word wasn't formed in modern English from two Old English morphemes. It had to have been inherited from Middle English, which inherited it from Old English. You need to look at how other descendants of Old English compounds are handled. Just off the top of my head, I would say that compound templates such as {{compound}}, {{prefix}}, {{affix}}, etc. shouldn't be used, because they add the entry to a category, and whatever category they generate will be wrong if the compounding happened in another language. There are probably other considerations that I'm not thinking of. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:00, 20 January 2020 (UTC)

Etymology at epigone.Edit

Mr. Entz, I wonder if you will visit the epigone page when you are able. I believe the statement within the Etymology there, that ἐπίγονος comes "from ἐπιγίγνομαι" to be incorrect, as it suggests that γόνος is derived from γίγνομαι. Rather, I think that γόνος entered Ancient Greek more directly as a lemma from earlier IE sources; see the Etymology at γόνος for what I believe to be the correct understanding (wherein γόνος is indicated to be merely the equivalent of γίγνομαι + -ος). I am loath to change any existing etymologies, as I am really not that learned in linguistic history, and so would like another set of more experienced eyes on this. I do not know of your facility with Ancient Greek; perhaps I will consult with User: Erutuon on this, as well? If you should indicate that I can go ahead with it, I shall introduce the changes as indicated above.

I'm not really at the level to verify this kind of etymological detail. Erutuon might be. The safest thing to do in such cases is to add {{rfv-etym}} and start a discussion at the Etymology scriptorium using the "+" link it generates.
That said, there's no reason in principle that γόνος and ἐπίγονος can't have different derivations. I can see how having the pair γίγνομαι and γόνος would prompt someone coining a noun from ἐπιγίγνομαι to model it on γόνος- that kind of thing happens all the time. I've seen a number of reconstruction entries for compounds deleted because it was obvious for historical reasons that the compounds couldn't have dated back that far, even though their component parts did. Chuck Entz (talk) 17:18, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, Mr. Entz. I think that the best thing for me to do at this juncture is to pass this on to Erutuon, and let himself and other qualified people consider what to do. I will initiate a section for this on Erutuon's talk page, and so bring it to his attention.

RE: Notice of ResignationEdit

I had to update my reply to you. --Apisite (talk) 04:48, 1 February 2020 (UTC)


Now I see why you did all those reverts. It is because Template:RQ:Shakespeare Timon, annoyingly, requires a page number. If there isn't one an error message comes up. I'd say the easiest thing to do is fiddle with the template so it doesn't matter if there's no page number. Not my job, of course, I haven't the know-how --AcpoKrane (talk) 14:08, 5 February 2020 (UTC)

Accidental rollbackEdit

Sorry for this; I clicked the wrong link in my watchlist. Rollback links are a bit too powerful sometimes. — Eru·tuon 01:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

It's not like I haven't done that a dozen times myself... Chuck Entz (talk) 01:58, 9 February 2020 (UTC)


Think this might be BedrockPerson on an IP? The range (/19) seems to belong to New York University. — surjection?〉 19:20, 13 February 2020 (UTC)

Considering the other activity on this range in the past, I decided to go ahead with a block already anyway. — surjection?〉 20:10, 13 February 2020 (UTC)


You unblocked this user, who is still creating useless crap. Please explain yourself. Equinox 02:17, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

You blocked someone who was editing in good faith without any warning and no explanation except for the block message itself. If he was churning out tons of garbage, I would understand- but we're talking about fewer than a dozen edits outside of user space over a month and a half. I'm not saying that blocking is out of the question, just that you were premature.
For what it's worth, I think we're probably dealing with someone who's quite young and has no idea that he's doing anything wrong. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:35, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
Fair enough. It would be nice to drop me a little message of explanation though. But that's up to you. Equinox 03:12, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

black swan eventEdit

Hi, may I enquire why you reverted black swan event? Blockhouse321]] (talk) 12:01, 1 March 2020 (UTC)

Yes. A dictionary is about words and phrases as words and phrases. Your entry was about a concept: events that are black swans. There's a reason for the redirect. If you want to deal with a concept, you do that at an encyclopedia. Chuck Entz (talk) 12:08, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
There many economic theories that include events in Wiktionary Category:en:Economics, some specific examples are: dualistic development, Black-Scholes model, ease of doing business index, etc. As an alternative, do you feel it should be listed as a definition under the idiom black swan? Blockhouse321 (talk) 12:17, 1 March 2020 (UTC)
We haven't gotten around to considering those for challenge. Thanks fro drawing our attention to them. DCDuring (talk) 12:07, 2 March 2020 (UTC)


I'm pretty sure User:Hamaabir is User:Irman making a block-evade. --{{victar|talk}} 20:59, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

It's been so long since we had a confirmed Irman sock I have nothing to compare with. Yes, the geolocation of the IP used is consistent in a very general way with what I remember of Irman's location, but it would be consistent with a lot of people who are interested in Persian, so I can't even begin to confirm any connection. If you know of any accounts active within the past 90 days, or even IP edits that I could use to narrow down the geographic range, it might help- but I'm afraid the checkuser tool isn't going to be much use here. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:49, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
I pointed Victar to you on the assumption that you had saved the data somewhere. Given that you can't help, I've blocked him purely on the basis of my Spidey-sense, which is not optimal practice, but it looks to be the best we can do here. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
Thanks, @Metaknowledge. --{{victar|talk}} 10:05, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Does User:هندیمان سالار match Hamaabir? — surjection??〉 15:14, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

Not conclusively, since the computer configuration is a bit on the generic side (the version numbers changed- but that just means they keep their software updated) and the IPs are different (albeit from the same "Data Center/Web Hosting/Transit"-type company). It's definitely consistent with the same computer assigned a different IP by the same provider after a couple of weeks. Chuck Entz (talk) 16:34, 5 April 2020 (UTC)


Please stop doing nonconstructive edits to gallery, thank you! If it was made by a bot, please troubleshoot your bot. -- 07:07, 20 March 2020 (UTC)


Are you fixing all those ids that I made years ago? I'm a terrible person. Good luck! THUMBS UP! Equinox 03:11, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Highway RevertEdit

Why did you revert me? I think there should be examples. If I sound biased, still add your own examples. Yes it was made in error. Because I don’t know how, add a link to the English Wikipedia. We could have a discussion! Gale5050 (talk) 20:08, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Don't forget that we're an international dictionary. Your examples would just be alphabet soup to someone from another continent. Besides, you added it to the definition labeled as specific to "rail transport". I'm not sure why we have that definition, or what it means, but it seems like the least likely to need highway numbers at the end. Chuck Entz (talk) 20:13, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
Ok, so can you add something like the New Jersey Transit or Long Island Rail Road? 20:53, 22 March 2020 (UTC)


I thought that he is one of the general authorities who distributes the topics. Belirsizkahve (talk) 18:53, 27 March 2020 (UTC)

There is no such thing. This is a wiki. Everyone here edits whatever they want to, as long as they don't seriously break the rules. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:00, 27 March 2020 (UTC)


You’ve got mail, please check your inbox. RhinosF1 (talk) 19:00, 29 March 2020 (UTC)