Talk:misgender

Latest comment: 11 months ago by Geographyinitiative in topic Misgender Citations

Misgender Citations edit

I don't really want to go into a discussion here, so please do not ping me here (I have made useful contributions to pro-choice via a similar non-discussion method).
With regard to the second sense, that of incorrectly identifying a person's gender, Merriam Webster says [1]:
"to identify the gender of (a person, such as a transsexual or transgender person) incorrectly (as by using an incorrect label or pronoun)".
The definition on this entry at this time says:
"To refer to (a person) using terms that express the wrong gender, either unknowingly or intentionally; for example, calling a woman "son" or a boy "she".".
I would suggest more cites covering or addressing the area of differing emphasis between MW & Wiktionary definitions: "(a person, such as a transsexual or transgender person)" in MW and "(a person)" in Wiktionary.
Both definitions above say that any person of any gender, that is, 100% of all humans (any and all of the 7.8 billion humans in total alive today, and those of the past, and fictional etc.), can be misgendered.
(In fiction, I know of an example where Commander Shepard of Mass Effect 3 seems to misgender Matriarch Aethyta (member of a monogendered race), who is Liara T'Soni's father, but whom Shepard refers to as a mother. Matriarch Aethyta takes offense and corrects the error, which Shepard tries to explain.-- Mass Effect 3 Meeting Liara's Dad Matriarch Aethyta on the Citadel at 0:54)
The citations on the entry seem to reflect MW's emphasis.
Hence, I see a need for more cites. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:02, 28 October 2022 (UTC) (Modified)Reply

I added 2 more cites and changed the definition slightly to reflect this. Jberkel 12:40, 27 February 2023 (UTC)Reply
Looks plausible to me. What of 'misgender' used outside the transgender context- I remember as a young child up to just a few minutes ago seeing situations (totally unconnected to the transgender context) where a person is referred to by the wrong pronouns. Here is an example:
2008, Robert Willoughby, “Northernmost Corner”, in North Korea (Bradt Travel Guides)‎[2], 2nd edition, →ISBN, →OCLC, →OL, page 192:
Hoeryong is the base for many monuments to Kim Jong Suk, revolutionary anti-Japanese fighter (look him[sic – meaning her] up on www.english.dprkorea.com/special/kim/ photo_list.php?ca_no=706&no=2).
Intentional misgendering of random people as a prank: [3] --Geographyinitiative (talk) 21:43, 20 April 2023 (UTC)Reply
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