Talk:proletariat
Kept. See archived discussion of February 2008. 07:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
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Rfv-sense ‘Those who profit less than or proportional to the profit of their total labor’, similarly to the rfv-sense for bourgeoisie above, and for similar reasons. Is this really used with this particular meaning distinctly from the other senses? (Perhaps by some school of Marxism?) — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 13:34, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
- This is the mirror image of the above. In Marxist theory, the defining property of the proletariat as a class is that they do not own (to a considerable degree) means of production, so that they can only survive by offering their labour for sale. That capitalist employers appropriate part of the fruits of their labour may be true, but is not a definitional aspect. We also do not define slave as “Someone who is the property of an owner who has control over them and therefore may treat them cruelly.” --Lambiam 19:47, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:25, 26 December 2018 (UTC)
Not sure what's the best way to edit this in, but 普羅大眾 ("common people" in Chinese, especially Hong Kong Chinese) is descended from "proletariat", with "普羅" a transliteration of "prole". Deryck Chan (talk) 20:40, 3 April 2021 (UTC)