Talk:quemful

RFV discussion: January–March 2015

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quemful

Seems to be Middle English only. If converted to a Middle English entry (or even if not), it needs to be cross-linked with quemeful (whether or not that word is also Middle English or modern English). - -sche (discuss) 03:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

RFV-failed. - -sche (discuss) 21:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)

quemeful

The only modern English citation I can find is already in the entry. Wycliffe's Bible also uses the word, so if someone can find an edition that was printed after 1500, that may be a second citation. See also my comments about #quemful, above. - -sche (discuss) 03:22, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

The OED has 5 citations of quemful ~ quemeful under the article queemful, though all of the citations are from Middle English and none of them use the spelling queemful. —JohnC5 ^{(Talk | contribs)} 03:28, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Why would the year of the edition matter? https://archive.org/details/englishhexaplaex00schouoft is an 1841 edition of (among others) Wycliffe's, but it's still Middle English. I guess there's all sorts of respellings/marginal translations of Middle English into more modern forms, but there's not going to be any obviously correct line there.--Prosfilaes (talk) 16:37, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

Simple post-1500 reprints of Wycliffe are still Middle English, yes. But sometimes modern English authors update Middle English works, comprehensively modernizing the spelling and grammatical forms and replacing some of the obsolete vocabulary, effectively "translating" the works into modern English. And modern English translations of works are citable, I think (see my comments on Talk:undeadliness). The link above looks like a simple reprint of Middle English, though. - -sche (discuss) 18:53, 30 January 2015 (UTC)

RFV-failed, converted to Middle English. The only modern English citation was: 1901, J. U. Glanville, Acrostic Poems of the Old Testament: Quemeful and kindly, turn Thy Face on me, […] . - -sche (discuss) 21:52, 27 March 2015 (UTC)