Rezfan83
Joined 21 October 2016
Latest comment: 7 years ago by Rezfan83 in topic Stop
Stop edit
Do not remove audio files because the editor was Canadian. Just change the label. DTLHS (talk) 01:58, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- If the file is not american, why keep the audio? I'm not going to go through each one of these and re-add text. A user deliberately went around adding these to numerous Wiktionaries. This should be corrected. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:02, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- You understand that we don't only have American pronunciations? DTLHS (talk) 02:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, but the user that uploaded these delbertly added these with en-us files initially, despite the fact that he's Canadian. There was a consensus that these should be renamed en-ca. I'm going around making changes. If you want to re-add canadian pronunciation, you can. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Then you need to rename the files. If you continue to remove content you will be blocked. DTLHS (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- They were renamed to en-ca files. I was told on mIRC by and admin named Revant that I could change these. edit: i talked to the admin and he thought I was just editing as well, sorry about that. Should of been more clear. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- You can change them by changing the filenames, not removing them entirely from the entries. DTLHS (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- The file names were changes. I'm removing the files because they are not US pronunciations. If you want to add them back as Canadian pronunciations, you can. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:10, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- *To redo all of these I would have to change the IPA and rhymes to canadian. That would be so time consuming. And many of these are in different languages. I just couldn't do all of that. I'm absolutely fine with canadian pronunciations being on those pages. But I think they should be readded correctly, with the IPA's, rhymes, etc. Since these were initially added in mind that this was United States pronunciations, so much would have to be edited and readded. Not just change text to "Canadian pronunciations" The IPA and rhymes would have to be altered. If someone would want to re-add these with all the correct canadian info, I'm fine with that. But leaving them as is would be incorrect information for people that view these pages with these sounds. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:41, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- I can't really evaluate what the IPA should be. Could you ask about this in this tea room? DTLHS (talk) 02:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- The problem with this is that so many of these files are on pages with different languages and whatnot. Korean, French, Polish, German/etc/etc. It would be so time consuming to do re-add candian parts to all of these... in different languages. It would be so much much more then deleting the word US or "americcan" and replacing it with "canadian." Some of these pages hav e alot of text that I'd have to translate one by one in the native language and add all this stuff. Initially these were put on their with the idea that they were US pronunciations. I have no problem with canadian prounciations being on these pages, but I would have to retranslate all of this in diffrernt languages and that would be such a time consuming hell lol. I just think leaving as "is" is not accurate. People from all over the world view these pages, and they wouldn't be getting the correct info. If someone wants to re-add the correct IPA's and whatnot through various languages, I'm fine. I just think since these aren't accurate currently for US pronuncations, they should be removed. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:56, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Just because there's an IPA pronunciation and an audio file doesn't mean we're asserting that the IPA represents the audio- they can be different dialects. DTLHS (talk) 03:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- The problem with this is that so many of these files are on pages with different languages and whatnot. Korean, French, Polish, German/etc/etc. It would be so time consuming to do re-add candian parts to all of these... in different languages. It would be so much much more then deleting the word US or "americcan" and replacing it with "canadian." Some of these pages hav e alot of text that I'd have to translate one by one in the native language and add all this stuff. Initially these were put on their with the idea that they were US pronunciations. I have no problem with canadian prounciations being on these pages, but I would have to retranslate all of this in diffrernt languages and that would be such a time consuming hell lol. I just think leaving as "is" is not accurate. People from all over the world view these pages, and they wouldn't be getting the correct info. If someone wants to re-add the correct IPA's and whatnot through various languages, I'm fine. I just think since these aren't accurate currently for US pronuncations, they should be removed. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:56, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- I can't really evaluate what the IPA should be. Could you ask about this in this tea room? DTLHS (talk) 02:53, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- You can change them by changing the filenames, not removing them entirely from the entries. DTLHS (talk) 02:09, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- They were renamed to en-ca files. I was told on mIRC by and admin named Revant that I could change these. edit: i talked to the admin and he thought I was just editing as well, sorry about that. Should of been more clear. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:08, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Then you need to rename the files. If you continue to remove content you will be blocked. DTLHS (talk) 02:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- Yes, but the user that uploaded these delbertly added these with en-us files initially, despite the fact that he's Canadian. There was a consensus that these should be renamed en-ca. I'm going around making changes. If you want to re-add canadian pronunciation, you can. Rezfan83 (talk) 02:05, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- You understand that we don't only have American pronunciations? DTLHS (talk) 02:03, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- I don't know. I was just trying to be helpful with removing this stuff. Not trying to be destructive. All I can say is that these aren't US pronucation sounds They shouldn't be listed on these pages as US pronunciations. If someone wants to re-add canadian pronuncations to those pages, they can. Rezfan83 (talk) 03:13, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- If you post the list of problematic pronunciations in the tea room I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me will help you. DTLHS (talk) 03:14, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- They all would be for the ones that I was removing. They were all en-ca files. Not en-us files. A user uploaded en-ca files (meaning canadian pronucnations) to these pages that list them as US pronucnations. To keep them there would be wrong and innacurate. Here is a map of the different dialect umberllas in North America: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:North_American_English_dialect_regions.jpg Canada is under a different umbrella of dialect. William Lbov, who is the most well known Ligustic in America made that map. Rezfan83 (talk) 03:17, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
- If you post the list of problematic pronunciations in the tea room I'm sure someone more knowledgeable than me will help you. DTLHS (talk) 03:14, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
