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Instead of blank your talk page, you can create an archive and put all of your previous discussions in. Before I do this, I need your approval. Would you like me to create an archive with all of your previous discussion? Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)

No. You can see my previous discussions perfectly well using the history. DTLHS (talk) 17:42, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
It is absolutely fine if you do not want an archive. Pkbwcgs (talk) 17:45, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


As this is a reconstructed Vulgar Latin term, I blanked that page and made a new entry in the proper kind of page. Word dewd544 (talk) 16:06, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

You need to delete the page or mark it for deletion. Blanking just looks like you made a mistake. DTLHS (talk) 16:07, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Thanks. I've never actually deleted a page until now and didn't know the procedures for doing so. Word dewd544 (talk) 23:16, 12 February 2017 (UTC)


A barnstar for you!

This barnstar is awarded to you for your excellent contributions to Wiktionary! Thank you very much!

Pkbwcgs (talk) 16:28, 11 February 2017 (UTC)


I think it would be good to try to use this to end up with the vast majority of Spanish entries having IPA (such as has been achieved with French). There are relatively few exceptions, but identifying them may be difficult (the primary issue that comes to mind is English borrowings, like how gangster is written without the accent but is pronounced with the stress of gángster, and usually more like the spelling gánster). Respellings might also be necessary for something like rayo X, but I can imagine that those cases could be identified. Finding existing IPA that doesn't match with template output might be a good way to identify potential problems. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:58, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

Since both the template and entries can have accent qualifiers (Latin America, Castillian, others) it's going to be challenging to compare existing IPA to the template output. I will need to think about how to do that. DTLHS (talk) 02:20, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
Ideally, es-IPA could be revamped to include those outputs for major accents (like the eccl= parameter for {{la-IPA}}). This isn't an easy task, but I know that you know Spanish to some level, so I hope you can figure out the best way to go about doing this — @Benwing2 may have ideas. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:41, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
You can use the model of {{ru-IPA}}, which supports phonetic respelling. I wrote some bot code to check whether the Russian manual IPA matched the template output and convert the manual IPA to the template, and account for common variations in the way that the manual IPA might have been written. After that we went through the remaining manual IPA cases (a few hundred) and converted them by hand. It's not the easiest thing to do but definitely doable. Benwing2 (talk) 04:34, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
{{ca-IPA}} may be a better starting point, given its similarity to Spanish. —CodeCat 22:07, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

IPA character substitutionsEdit

  • Totally unrelated, but are you interested in using your bot to do automatic character substitutions in {{IPA}}? Some IPA mistakes could be fixed easily that way, like use of ' instead of the correct ˈ (e.g. on doğa). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:25, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    Sure, that would be easy, I would just need a list of substitutions. DTLHS (talk) 00:27, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    The following substitutions can be done universally: ' to ˈ, : to ː, ! to !, g to ɡ. There are some more that are language-specific, but the only one with consensus from a vote (and therefore appropriate to do by bot at any time) is for English IPA, r to ɹ. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:46, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    OK, I've fixed those instances and I'll add it to my regular bot tasks. DTLHS (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    There are still some left; not sure how they didn't get caught. Examples: bedriven, cheerio. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:09, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
    Sorry, had a dumb encoding bug... DTLHS (talk) 01:32, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    @Metaknowledge Do you think it's safe to run the same replacements on {{rhyme}}? DTLHS (talk) 23:02, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    There's another apostrophe: ʹ. Can this also be replaced automatically? DTLHS (talk) 23:11, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    Re {{rhyme}}: yes, the same replacements can be run. Why have pages like visuri still escaped? And I think ʹ should be able to be replaced, but just to be sure, could you make a list of the IPA transcriptions that use it so I can check first? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:37, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    Because there's another template {{audio-IPA}} that I didn't know about before. And for rhymes I guess I'd have to check if there was a Rhymes: page first. DTLHS (talk) 23:39, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    Checking for the existence of the Rhymes page is a good idea, but theoretically they should all be in IPA, so if you find a link to a Rhymes page that would no longer work once you fixed the IPA, you'd actually be identifying Rhymes pages that need to be moved (which is a somewhat separate, but also useful cleanup job). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:42, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    @Metaknowledge [1] DTLHS (talk) 23:45, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    Thanks, that replacement is good to go in all cases. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:49, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
    Another universal substitution: ˤ to ˁ (thanks to Erutuon). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:19, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
    Got it. DTLHS (talk) 00:21, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
    Going through the category is turning up a lot of weird stuff. Anyway, here's another substitution: ǝ to ə. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:36, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
    And another, to correct Siniticist transcription to IPA: ɿ to z̩. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:47, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
    On a page like this, the comma indicates a pause when speaking rather than there being two transcriptions of the term. The IPA ignores the pause, so the best thing to do here is, IMO, simply to remove the comma. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:05, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
  • @Metaknowledge I just noticed that the two exclamation point characters you gave me are the same. DTLHS (talk) 01:23, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
    That's apparently because the Special characters dropdown uses the wrong one too! How can I fix that? It should be ! to ǃ (but I realise now that it may have to be done semi-manually, in case anybody used it as an actual exclamation mark (in which case it should be simply removed, rather than converted)). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:04, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
    MediaWiki:Edittools. But ! is listed as a valid character in Module:IPA/data/symbols. DTLHS (talk) 04:08, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
    That is confusing and presumably also an error. @Erutuon, can you shed any light on this? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:29, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
    @Μετάknowledge: I don't think there is a valid use of the exclamation point in the IPA. If one wanted to transcribe the prosodic qualities (whatever they might be) of a sentence ending in an exclamation point, it would be done with different symbols. — Eru·tuon 22:46, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
    Thanks, that confirms it's just a widespread error that we'll have to work on fixing. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:01, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
    By the way, DTLHS, the Edittools is not the same as the Special characters dropdown where the error is. Do you know where I can access that to fix it? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:03, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
    Oh yeah, that thing... I'm actually not sure if that's publicly editable... maybe ask in the grease pit? DTLHS (talk) 00:17, 24 February 2017 (UTC)

Triple Braces in Math ExpressionsEdit

In looking through the logs for Abuse filter 56, I noticed a lot of cases of <math>{{{1}}}</math> that were triggering the abuse filter for completely unrelated edits. I replaced them all with <math>1</math> to stop this from happening, but noticed along the way that you had replaced some of these with text. It now seems that these should have been replaced with text from the original articles that was missing from the source that SemperBlotto has been using to create these entries. I don't know how to fix these, but it looks like you might.

Here's a list of the entries I edited:

There also seem to be some left un-edited, judging by coorbit

I realize that you may not have the time for this right now, but my edits might otherwise have led to these going undetected by people looking for this kind of problem, so I wanted to leave a record somewhere. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:02, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

Are you saying you don't know the Latex markup? I should be able to add the missing text in these entries. DTLHS (talk) 03:08, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Also even if you don't know how to reproduce the formulas you should be able to see the code in the page source. DTLHS (talk) 03:09, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
By the way I really don't appreciate SemperBlotto creating entries like this, especially when there isn't even a definition. It's the kind of thing he would block an IP for. DTLHS (talk) 03:28, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
Latex- that's German for a rubbery substance, right? As for the page source, I know it exists somewhere in Visviva's user space, but I haven't gone through the edit histories to track it down. Executive summary: I could eventually figure out how to fix this myself, but in half the time it takes me to get up to speed, you could probably do the whole thing without breaking a sweat. As for SemperBlotto, the abuse filter warnings should have clued him in that something wasn't right, but he ignored them. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 03:39, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
The page source on the arXiv external link. DTLHS (talk) 03:40, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
FWIW, in my Firefox 51.0.1 on Windows 7, I can right-click on the math in the original page, then click "Show Math As -> TeX Commands" to show the code. I had fixed all pages like those which I found a few months ago, but these entries are new. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 03:41, 19 February 2017 (UTC)

etyl templateEdit

Hi, cud u please explain this edit? I thought that since the Swedish fuska comes from the German pfuschen it didn't make sense to add fi to the Swedish word's etyl template, which is why i put sv instead. Apparently i was wrong, but i still don't really understand what to do next time. --Espoo (talk) 17:55, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

Etymologies are categorized according to the entry they are in. In a Finnish entry, all steps in the etymology are categorized as "Finnish terms derived from X". In the Swedish entry for fuska you would use sv. DTLHS (talk) 17:57, 23 February 2017 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/tracking/El Pais/20170305Edit

Hey. You're confusing Spanish and Portuguese here...--Quadcont (talk) 12:17, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

I didn't realize they had a Portuguese section... I'll exclude /brasil/ pages in the future. DTLHS (talk) 15:11, 6 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello, have a problem in several articles and verbets of Wikipedia and Wiktionary in Portuguese, English and Spanish!Edit

Was be saying that comic strip, charge and cartoon are synonymous, when, in really, are different things!

The Comic Strips, Charges and Cartoons: The Origins, Meanings and Differences!, Enlarged Explanations.

Comic strip (tira cômica in Portuguese and tira cómica in Spanish): short duration comics, with the frames (which usually range from one to five, three being the most common) disposed and organized in the form of a strip, such as own name already implies and being or not humorous. The comic strip criticizes the values of society. There are three types of comic strips: daily strips (tiras diárias in Portuguese and tiras diarias in Spanish), usually printed in small quantities because of the pace of publication, in black and white (though some in color) and containing between one and five frames (three being the most common), Sunday boards (pranchas dominicais in Portuguese and planchas dominicales in Spanish), usually printed in large quantities, in color (although some in black and white) and with a larger number of tables occupying a entire page and the yonkomas (yonkomas same in Portuguese and Spanish), of Japanese origin, with four vertical frames (although some in the horizontal) and who always deal with serious matters, but in a humorous form. Etymology: from the American English, comic strip, comic ribbon.

Charge (charge even in Portuguese and Spanish): short duration comics, usually occupying a single frame, containing a satire or message instead of a story and being humorous (although some with more than one frame, with stories and not being humorous). The cartoon criticizes people and things of the contemporaneity and comes as politic manifest in France. Etymology: from the Franco-Belgian French, charger, burden, exaggeration or violent attack.

Cartoon (cartón in Spanish and cartum in Portuguese): short duration comics, usually occupying a single frame, containing a satire or message instead of a story and being humorous (though some with more than one frame, with stories and not being humorous). The cartoon criticizes the situations of the day to day and comes after that was be promoted a drawing concourse in England where the first cartoons was be produced in large pieces of paper. Due to the similarities between the first animated short films and the cartoons printed and published at the time, the animated drawing name in English also refers to cartoon, in full, animated cartoon. The same thing happens in Italian and German, where the cartoon is called, respectively, cartone animato and animierte Cartoon. Etymology: from the British English, cartoon and these of the Italian, cartone, cartone, large piece of paper, stub, study, draft or anteproject.

(Collaboration: users Liebre Asesino and Jim from Yahoo! Answers in Spanish.)

Here they here the articles and verbets for be revised in the respective idioms:,,,,,,,,ômica,,,,,,ómica, andón!

Including and principally, the certain is that the Wikipedia articles (described soon above!) should receive the following names in each idiom: Tira de banda desenhada, Charge and Cartum (desenho humorístico) - in Portuguese, Comic strip, Charge (humoristic drawing) and Cartoon - in English and Tira de historieta, Charge (dibujo humorístico) and Cartón (dibujo humorístico) - in Spanish!

Remembering and highlighting that the caricature has nothing to do with the other three because isn't a form of comic: is, simply, a humoristic exaggerated drawing of something or someone, be real or not, does not even have texts!

In fact, all my editions in this sense are already being reversed, I do not know why, since I understand a lot of comics, so I am a comic drawer, writer and scripter, so that I am no amateur and layman in the Whole subject, see it!

And well, as you can see, the cartoon isn't a type of comic strip, neither the charge is a type of cartoon, if possible, please, warn to your fellow editors to make the changes, very thanks since now for all attention and interest and a hug!

Saviochristi (talk) Saviochristi (talk) 21:46, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

I've seen you add this monstrosity to several talk pages, where it's been universally ignored. Not only does it show that you don't know English well enough to write a coherent sentence, let alone understand its usage, it also shows that you don't understand Wiktionary either- we're a descriptive dictionary: we document language as it's used, not how you may believe would make sense. Please stop. Chuck Entz (talk) 22:28, 17 March 2017 (UTC)

Another cleanup ideaEdit

We have a long-running problem with Armenian, wherein certain editors used to give the transliteration in parentheses following a term in {{l}} or {{m}}. Because automatic transliteration for Armenian has been in place for a while, the transliteration appears twice. Many have been cleaned up by hand, but doubtless some still remain. Do you think it would be possible to find these and remove the transliteration in parentheses? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:17, 18 March 2017 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge User:DTLHS/Armenian translit. I looked for instances of the templates followed by a space and opening parenthesis. DTLHS (talk) 18:52, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, that's it — and a lot to fix by hand. Can you remove them by bot? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:54, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
No- see the last entry for an example of a false positive. DTLHS (talk) 18:58, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
Couldn't you check if the output of the translit and the text in parentheses match or not? It would be easy to go through the ones where they don't match by hand, and you could fix those that do match by bot. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:02, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
OK, in progress now. DTLHS (talk) 18:42, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
I noticed the same thing here for Hindi. Looks like this might be another language where it would be easy to fix this. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:57, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Done. DTLHS (talk) 03:36, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:51, 12 October 2017 (UTC)

I noticed at parrot#Translations (with Akan) that language renames sometimes leave translations out of alphabetical order. I don't know how easily this could be fixed by bot, though. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:55, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. The main difficulty when dealing with translations is that languages such as Chinese or Arabic can have subvarieties over multiple lines that need to be grouped together when sorting and balancing the columns. DTLHS (talk) 15:29, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge Do you know if there is consensus for ordering subtranslations alphabetically such as in this diff? DTLHS (talk) 00:54, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't know, although it seems as though there could hardly be opposition to it. @-sche might potentially know more about this. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:09, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
Thinking about it further there may be other considerations such as the most common script first (for example the Egyptian in word). DTLHS (talk) 01:45, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
I can't find a policy that spells it out (it's not in Wiktionary:Translations, AFAICS), but de facto subvarieties are alphabetized, yes, at least for most languages, and for the languages with the most subvarieties (Arabic, Chinese). (There are entries which are not consistent with this norm, but that's true of any norm...) Spot-checking a dozen large translations tables, the only language where the subvarieties are more often than not out of order is Malay, where I frequently (but not always) find the Rumi script listed before Jawi, and I don't think it would be problematic to alphabetize those, since Latin script is not similarly privileged in e.g. Serbo-Croatian (where Cyrillic consistently appears first). A tricker issue is whether to nest some things as subvarieties or not, and on that front there is more inconsistency (e.g. with Apache, German, Greek, etc). Off topic, I just noticed how confused the translation table at Apache is, with e.g. both Mescalero and Chiricahua listed twice, once each as a subvariety of Apache, and once each again as a sub-sub-variety of the other(!). - -sche (discuss) 01:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
I'd love there to be more consistency here but I don't think it's going to happen without some kind of codification of the rules in Module:languages. DTLHS (talk) 02:28, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge Finished a run through the translation tables- here is a list of entries that couldn't be parsed for various reasons. DTLHS (talk) 00:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
I fixed a couple that were clear errors, but most seem fine, unless I'm missing something. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:53, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Errors include any line that doesn't start with "* " or "*: ". "Contains comments" can be ignored for now. DTLHS (talk) 01:02, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Thank youEdit

Thank you, I'll pay more attention in the future not to forget language heading. Julien Daux (talk) 00:24, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

It's not a big deal- it's easy to detect and fix. DTLHS (talk) 00:26, 23 March 2017 (UTC)


It looks as though some quotations were mysteriously changed to the American spelling when you did your edit. DonnanZ (talk) 10:58, 27 March 2017 (UTC)


I was hoping to be able to modify your code for Chichewa and not have to bother you again, but I don't know how to handle the complexity of one of Kikuyu's noun classes. For the plural of class 11, "rũr" becomes "nd" except when the next consonant is m or n, in which case it becomes "n". In the same class, "rũV" or "ruV" becomes "njV" except when the next consonant is m or n, in which case it becomes "ny". ("V" can be any of the following vowels: {a, e, i, ĩ, o, u, ũ}. In every case, V remains unchanged in the plural.) @エリック・キィ, who is also interested in Kikuyu. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:32, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge Could you add some test cases for these rules? DTLHS (talk) 16:31, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
It seems like we're repeating a lot of code between the various Bantu languages- maybe we could use a common headword module that they could all call, and just put the rules i n the language specific modules. DTLHS (talk) 16:38, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
I'll add some. And we could indeed do that — you could also make the same argument for Romance languages! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 17:30, 9 April 2017 (UTC)


Why did you remove info from this page? When removing edits, please mention why, if you have valid reasons for doing so that is, otherwise it can be seen as you not even knowing about the language you're editing. Grez868 (talk) 21:57, 11 April 2017 (UTC)

You called the language Liechtensteiner German (which we don't have a language code for), used {{nl-interj}} which is a Dutch template, and added Category:fl:Greetings ("fl" is not a language code). DTLHS (talk) 21:59, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
@Grez868 I have restored the entry and added a request for cleanup. DTLHS (talk) 22:08, 11 April 2017 (UTC)


I've reverted my edits on other templates as well, because you expressed concerns. Perhaps as you understand them better you would update them accordingly, so they don't generate the Linter errors caused by mis-nesting etc.

And thank you for helping me identify something that shouldn't have caused the error it did. (Namely that apparently mixing Wikipedia Table syntax and HTML table syntax breaks things.) ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 08:44, 17 April 2017 (UTC)

Sandboxed a new version:- Template:ia-conj/sandbox Please test to destruction XD ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:23, 17 April 2017 (UTC)
I've had Enough, I've had it with playing "hunt the random interaction with a quirk, that you are supposed to know by mind-reading". Perhaps you will be able to find someone that can completely re-write the template so it won't show up as having malformed/obselete HTML for some reason.

ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 09:48, 17 April 2017 (UTC)


Hey. Any chance of getting a reboot on User:DTLHS/elsewhere? Perhaps one without any lowercase days of the week, and uppercase blatant mistakes too. --G23r0f0i (talk) 17:51, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 18:00, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, love ya'! --G23r0f0i (talk) 10:27, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
  • How about another update sometime before the end of the month? -WF


Hi, you asked for a specific example for the economic sense at RFV. Do the quotations now present at the entry suffice? Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk) 11:13, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Effingham CountyEdit

It's been attacked twice in the few days since it was created, it may need some protection. DonnanZ (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Lol, I wouldn't worry too much about that.

Combined SpanishEdit

Hi. I was thinking we should put in all Spanish conjugation sections the combined forms. What's my reasoning? To make less work for myself, of course. Feel free to give plenty of sensible reasons why it's a bad idea.

Not every Spanish verb is transitive. DTLHS (talk) 14:45, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Template:l in etymology sectionsEdit

I recently noticed a few examples of {{l}} in etymology sections, while adding asterisks to Illyrian terms. This should usually be {{m}}. Not sure how common this is, but do you think that NadandoBot could or should go through and correct them to {{m}}? On the other hand, if there are legitimate uses of {{l}} in Etymology sections, it would be better for human editors to go through and fix the entries. — Eru·tuon 22:53, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't know what a legitimate use would be. There are a lot so it would have to be done by bot. DTLHS (talk) 00:00, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
Some examples: ŭonbulismo, Bononia, ettle, belave DTLHS (talk) 00:18, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
User:DTLHS/cleanup/l inside etymology DTLHS (talk) 01:26, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

ultimate vs. ultimate frisbeeEdit

The sport is officially ultimate, and colloquially ultimate frisbee, so I think we ought to reference it by the official name. - [The]DaveRoss 03:19, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Right now ultimate redirects to ultimate frisbee as the main entry. What about "English terms related to the sport of ultimate"? DTLHS (talk) 03:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
Sounds perfect. - [The]DaveRoss 03:23, 14 May 2017 (UTC)

Bot request: create "requests" categoriesEdit

Hello. Could you create all the "Requests ..." categories needed in Special:WantedCategories, please?

I see that you did exactly that for a lot of requests categories when needed these days. That was very helpful, thanks.

So I figured it should probably be easy for you to make the bot do the same work again, if I'm not mistaken. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 20:18, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

Yes, I'm doing it now. DTLHS (talk) 20:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Great, thanks. --Daniel Carrero (talk) 20:32, 23 May 2017 (UTC)

kvað við klukkanhlaupa á glæEdit

WT:SOP might be what you are looking for68.151.25.115 01:26, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

how do you find entries like 𐍃𐍄𐌰𐌳?Edit

Was wondering about this. I watch the Gothic lemma and non-lemma categories but ones that are added without the proper templates (like that one) go under the radar due to them not being categorized properly. It'd be useful to know how you find them so I can get to bad Gothic entries earlier (like the one here linked, which was a non-lemma variant spelling). — Kleio (t · c) 17:02, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

[2] DTLHS (talk) 17:02, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
Grazie mille. — Kleio (t · c) 17:04, 20 June 2017 (UTC)

Derivated termsEdit

Hello, thank you for the edit of the page xweş again. I'm new here and I don't know how to work, I'm just learning by watching the edit of similiar pages :D My problem is that I wanted to add a Derivated terms ' page to xweş. How can I do that?

Ah, sorry, I think I misunderstood your intent. Does my latest edit show what you wanted? DTLHS (talk) 17:27, 20 June 2017 (UTC)


Hi. Rusyn language can use fully automated transliteration. If there are word stresses in the translit but not in the Cyrillic text, they just need to be added in the Cyrillic text. E.g.

Я руси́н, був, єсьм, і бу́ду.
Ja rusýn, buv, jesʹm, i búdu.
I was Rusyn, I am Rusyn and I will be Rusyn.

--Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 02:53, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll do that. I was editing contributions from PetrGruko. DTLHS (talk) 03:08, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

cooled quoteEdit

Why you remove example from 1960 book Sex Jungle read during 1965 film Perversion for Profit?

Re cool#verb I think we should explain this usage.

I could be wrong about murder being the meaning though. mentions "cool" could simply refer to knocking a man out, so the protagonist could have said he never knocked a guy out either, even if he was initially talking about never having killed someone. ScratchMarshall (talk) 19:41, 9 July 2017 (UTC)

I moved it to cool. Please put citations on the lemma forms of words (cool not cooled). DTLHS (talk) 19:44, 9 July 2017 (UTC)


Are you a zoologist of some sort? Equinox 21:48, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

No, I've just been searching on Google books for zoology terms and then noting what we're missing (a lot apparently). DTLHS (talk) 21:50, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
I once wrote code to go through all Wikipedia articles ending in -idae, check the Google Books hit count for the corresponding -id(s), and create zoology stubs for those that seemed plausible. (This created probably a few thousand, of which I've later found only two or three to be wrong.) Maybe we should do this with other suffixes like -oidea. Equinox 22:14, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
A lot of what I'm finding doesn't seem to be on Wikipedia. DTLHS (talk) 22:15, 10 July 2017 (UTC)
As a general rule, the higher the rank, the less stable the taxonomy is, especially for "in-between" ranks like subfamily, tribe, suborder, etc. You really have to know something about the taxonomy of a group before you know whether it's safe to do automated stuff. Just yesterday, I ran into a common name that ended in -oid, which would normally refer to a superfamily, ending in -oidea, but was really an old name for a family, which used to end in -oides before they standardized the ending to -idae. Another problem with animal -oid names is that suborders end in -oidei, so they can become -oid common names, too. Also, the suffixes for plants and animals don't match- in the case of -idae, that's an animal family, but a plant subclass (fortunately, there are fewer taxa the higher up the tree you go, so there aren't many conflicts in that case). See w:Taxonomic_rank#Terminations_of_names for more details. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:25, 12 July 2017 (UTC)


Hi there. I used to work in the margarine industry. Haven't seen the word "votator" in more than 50 years! SemperBlotto (talk) 05:54, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the definition! DTLHS (talk) 05:57, 16 July 2017 (UTC)


אתה מוסיף ללא הרף מידע שגוי ולאחר מכן אתה למנוע עריכות לשחזר את המידע הנכון? ילדותי יבריב (talk) 22:19, 27 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't speak Hebrew, sorry. DTLHS (talk) 22:23, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
Well my English is bad, so bear with me: Why the hell are you adding incorrect info to Shem HaMephorash and then locking it to prevent it from being correction? How the F is the 'Shem hamphorash' that refers to the Tetragrammaton also a proper noun? That's like saying "the man named Jacob" is a proper noun because it simply refers to a name. English is my 2nd language and it already seems I understand it better then you!. יבריב (talk) 22:27, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
I am asserting it is a proper noun because it refers to a specific entity (just like God and Elohim are proper nouns). I may be missing something in the nuance of the definitions and if so I apologize. DTLHS (talk) 22:33, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
But you have to understand, it's not referring to God, it's referring to God's name, the word itself. That's why it's called Shem HaMephorash. Shem = name. Ha = the. Mephorash = explicit—altogether meaning "the explicit name" In the examples of God and Elohim, we would be referring to the literal words "God" and "Elohim", not the subject they are describing. Take it like this, you have a name. The word 'name' is a noun because while it denotes a proper noun, it itself is simply a noun יבריב (talk) 22:37, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
OK, I've unprotected the entry. DTLHS (talk) 22:39, 27 July 2017 (UTC)


Hi, I see that you rolled back my edits in the Citations section of the Scientology entry. I can see how my edits probably looked like vandalism. However, I ask that you please take a moment and look through the deletions I made and see if they really are appropriate for Wiktionary citations. 22 out of 24 entries in this Citations section are referring to Werner Erhard or est, whose association with Scientology is negligible at best. All of these citations were originally added by an editor who was banned from editing on Wikipedia because of their ongoing and aggressive attempt to promote bias against Erhard and others in related topics. I will provide you with more evidence for this if you are interested. Regardless of this editor's standing however, the Citations section of Wiktionary should not be used as a platform to add content to the internet that slanders people by association and is in my view a manipulation of the intent of Wiktionary. There is far too much undue weight given to a topic only peripherally related to this controversial topic. Taken as a whole, the existing Citations section reads as a critique of Erhard rather than as an illustration of the main topic of Scientology. Isn't the function of a Citations section to illustrate the definition of the main word? If so, then in what way do any of these quotes illustrate this definition? I appreciate you taking a moment to read over the entire section and come to your own conclusions based on the intent of creating a good Citations section. Thanks --CalPolly (talk) 21:41, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough, I've undone my edit. DTLHS (talk) 22:42, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/tracking/Juventud Rebelde/20170819Edit

The combined forms thing is pretty useful, D. But they're added as verb-forms, not verb forms. See restregarse. --WF on Holiday (talk) 22:18, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

I saw that, it's being fixed. DTLHS (talk) 22:19, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Dump requestEdit

Hi, could you please generate a list of all templates that contain the text form-of? Thanks. —CodeCat 11:33, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

I think you want this? Dixtosa (talk) 11:40, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
That works too, thank you! I still need to learn more about how search works. —CodeCat 11:46, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Lithuanian form-of entries with no headword templateEdit

While going through the entries in CAT:E I ran into a number of untemplated entries: apparently Dick Laurent created some Lithuanian form-of entries back in 2009 using his bot, with the headword line consisting of nothing but '''headword''' {{g|gender}}. It's not as widespread as I thought at first, but it might be worth a bot run, nonetheless. See turkiškaisiais for an example. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:51, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

I am aware of that, and I'll probably fix the remainder of them soon. DTLHS (talk) 17:17, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Problem With Anagram UpdatesEdit

See diff. Looks like you'll need to tweak your code. Thanks! Chuck Entz (talk) 19:28, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. DTLHS (talk) 19:29, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Hausa requestsEdit

I've got a couple requests. The simple one: how do I use the search to get a list of pages using {{head|ha|noun? The more annoying one: I think {{ha-noun}} needs to be Luacised, because I want to add automatic generation of the possessed form. (Or maybe just the function could be done in Lua and stuck in the template as it is.) Rules for generating the possessed form:

  • The possessed form should be generated with tones and vowel length (so based on what's in head=). If the last vowel is long (marked with a macron), it becomes short in the possessed form.
  • If the term ends in a consonant (any letter other than {a e i o u}) or is composed of multiple words (contains a space), do not attempt to generate one.
  • If the gender is feminine and the word ends in -a, add r̃ to the end.
  • If the word ends in -ai or -au, replace the final letter with n.
  • For all other words, add n to the end.
  • There should be a parameter for overriding the automated form.

Thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:08, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

{{head|ha|noun: [3]. I'll start a module and we can iterate on it. DTLHS (talk) 22:11, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge For {{ha-noun}}, could you give the parameter names that you want it to take (right now it looks like it uses 1 and g2 for genders, 2 for plural, f for feminine form, pl2 and pl3 for alternate plurals). DTLHS (talk) 23:48, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
And there's also a sort= parameter that I don't know if you just want to ignore. DTLHS (talk) 23:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much for your help so far! This might be a good chance to modify the head= parameter to be an obligatory positional parameter (I suppose 2, bumping plural to 3), since it always needs to be supplied and writing head= every time is an awful lot of typing. Since that would require a bot run, I'm not sure what the right order of tasks is. As for sorting: I have no idea how it works; there's a sortkey in MOD:languages/data2 and it never has to be overriden, so if that means sort= can go, that's all good by me. And then a parameter like pos= will be needed for an override of the possessed form. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:58, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
Why don't we make a temporary template {{ha-noun2}} (to be deleted eventually) that can have your ideal parameters, then we can test that and eventually switch the entries over. DTLHS (talk) 00:04, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Example: {{ha-noun2|m|dumā|dumame|f=test|pl2=test}} DTLHS (talk) 00:16, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Looks good to me, although it should have a more user-friendly response to missing obligatory parameters (I guess displaying question marks and categorisation in cleanup categories). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:23, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, I've added categories for missing headword, plural and gender parameters. DTLHS (talk) 00:33, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Sorry I was unclear — plural is indeed optional. Also, genders other than {m f p} should go in a cleanup category. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:36, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
OK, done. Do you want a category if the possessed form isn't provided and can't be generated? DTLHS (talk) 00:39, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
No, there are a lot of borrowed nouns that just won't have a possessed form. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 00:44, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge So if you're happy with the new template, the plan is to replace existing uses of {{ha-noun}} with {{ha-noun2}}, moving around the parameters, then replace {{ha-noun}} with the new code, then finally replace uses of {{ha-noun2}} with {{ha-noun}} and delete {{ha-noun2}}. DTLHS (talk) 01:41, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks — sounds good. I will start using {{ha-noun2}} in mainspace and you can ping me when it's time to replace it with the final {{ha-noun}}. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:05, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Transition is done, also added a few more test cases. DTLHS (talk) 07:18, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Thank you so much! One test case is still failing. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 07:50, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge ƙwai has the parameter "gen". DTLHS (talk) 06:58, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, removed. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 07:04, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
  • I've been noticing that a lot of plurals were added without diacritics. Would it be possible to get a list of pages where the second parameter in {{ha-noun}} has no diacritical marks (i.e. none of grave, macron, circumflex, or macron+grave)? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:38, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
User:DTLHS/hausa plurals DTLHS (talk) 18:47, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Awesome. I'm still working on the cleanup, but I've got another bot request: could you change the usage of head= in {{ha-proper noun}} to being the second positional parameter? I think the template is ready for that. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 20:00, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Done. DTLHS (talk) 20:19, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
For templates that take both a positional headword parameter and a gender, the convention is for 1= to be the headword and 2= to be the gender. —Rua (mew) 20:22, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
Fixed. DTLHS (talk) 19:52, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Unblocking anonEdit

I intended on shortening this anon's block. The reason I blocked him/her in the first place was in order to avoid an edit war and encourage discussing issues instead. --Robbie SWE (talk) 18:43, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Flood flagEdit

I applied the flood flag while you are deleting the langrev templates, so that RC is easier to read. Please unflag when you are finished. Thanks! Wyang (talk) 01:19, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I had forgotten that was an option for mass deleting pages. DTLHS (talk) 02:05, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Does en.WT do revdel?Edit - Amgine/ t·e 03:38, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Does this help? It seems like a problem with the database. DTLHS (talk) 03:41, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Actually Chuck Entz deleted the page after I mentioned it here, which now throws that odd error to main page for everything previously deleted. Which may or may not be an issue for en.WT. - Amgine/ t·e 03:47, 28 September 2017 (UTC)


@DTLHS, @Metaknowledge Excuse me, but I am not persuaded about this NadandoBot's edit. Is there any agreement that we should remove all interwiki links including Incubator's? I regarded them somewhat useful...--Eryk Kij (talk) 17:46, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry about that, I had some code active to automatically remove any interwikis. If the link can't be generated by the cognate extension I think that it can stay. DTLHS (talk) 17:47, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
Cognate can't handle Incubator links? Ugh, sorry. I guess we'd better file a request... —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:12, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Spurious Swahili translationsEdit

Back in 2009, Kasmil added a large number of spurious Swahili translations, and unfortunately, a great many of these are still left. What they would do is assume that one Swahili word mapped to one English word, thus adding a single Swahili word as a translation to every transtable in the English entry, even though nearly all of them would be wrong. An example of Kasmil's edits is here. Is it possible to find these? One useful fact is that Swahili's morphology makes it very unlikely that the same word could be the correct translation for more than one part of speech in English, so that would be a giveaway that mistranslation has occurred. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:43, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

Talk:fish#Swahili_translationssuzukaze (tc) 04:05, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge User:DTLHS/cleanup/swahili translations DTLHS (talk) 04:11, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
That is an excellent list that will probably take me a long while. There will be more out there on pages that just happened not to have multiple parts of speech, though — is there a way to get them through Kasmil's edits? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:15, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
No, since I'm not going to download the full history dump- you'll have to go through their contributions. DTLHS (talk) 04:16, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
Alright. Thanks! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:21, 15 October 2017 (UTC)

About dumidzelu lemmaEdit

"Dumidzelu" is ACTUALLY in fact not a true alternate form to dumnidzã since it additionally means "sky". You know, my sources hail from my paternal grandmother who is truly a native speaker. Apparently you didn't notice I added the word "sky" in the brackets there. Thank you if you consider my reminder. - Hanno the Navigator (talk) 14:08, 21 October 2017 (UTC)


Hi! I think I found another Spanish conjugation error. rehuir is conjugated like construir, not huir, according to the RAE. I'd change it myself, but those modules are supercomplicated. --P5Nd2 (talk) 17:49, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

It seems like there is some disagreement: the Spanish wiktionary has the stressed conjugation, while Verbix has both. DTLHS (talk) 18:13, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
Personally, I'd trust RAE over WT any day of the week. I mean, I write this stuff, por Dios. --P5Nd2 (talk) 18:27, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
Actually our conjugation already matches the RAE- they say it's conjugated like construir but give it stressed forms like we do. DTLHS (talk) 18:34, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


While I've got Spanish on my mind, would you be able to merge Template:es-adj-inv into Template:es-adj? --P5Nd2 (talk) 17:52, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Your request is resolved.Edit

Regarding glow-up. 18:38, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

See WT:CFI, and provide "use in permanently recorded media, conveying meaning, in at least three independent instances spanning at least a year" DTLHS (talk) 18:41, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Glow-up is in active use that satisfies all the rules you cite. Wiktionary is a descriptive dictionary, as opposed to prescriptive. Be an unpaid control freak all you want, but this entry will stay because it satisfies Wiktionary's rules. Just because you are an ugly hermit that knows nothing about beauty-related social media doesn't mean this expression is not mainstream. 18:46, 22 October 2017 (UTC) 18:47, 22 October 2017 (UTC)

Then put some of that evidence on the page before you remove the RFV template. DTLHS (talk) 18:49, 22 October 2017 (UTC)


@DTLHS: My due apologies for sending my message to the wrong adminsistrator; it was meant for you, as follows - Thank you for noticing my edit which cannot be left as it is and am trying to delete the plural form that is completely false and totally unacceptable; also to present the correct template! Andrew H. Gray 18:45, 31 October 2017 (UTC) Thank you for sorting these lexemes out so promptly! The "o" was in brackets, but is likely to have been in existence as an older rare form that influenced the formation of wudu. The other earlier form, widu is certainly either Germanic, or carried through by that branch. What concerns me is the lack of taking into account the possible hybridity of Germanic with the previous Brittonic in more cases than I probably realise, since the change over could not be abrupt, considering the lack of education at that period. The Germanic 'og' 'ug' and 'oh' suffix to form 'ow' in Anglo-Saxon Old English is just one instance of this. Andrew H. Gray 17:24, 2 November 2017 (UTC)Andrew

I don't know anything about that. Ask User:Leasnam. DTLHS (talk) 17:31, 2 November 2017 (UTC)


Hi! Here are your 10 random missing English words for this month. Let me know if you'd prefer a secret alert by e-mail next time.

Equinox 00:53, 5 November 2017 (UTC)


Hey. Can you delete User:DTLHS/tracking/Granma/20170529 please. I'm a n00b, so can't slap {delete} on the page --Spreaderofwords (talk) 10:18, 10 November 2017 (UTC)


(Solved) Swiftyfish (talk) 08:17, 26 November 2017 (UTC)

You destroyed the structure of the entry. Language headers go at level 2, everything else is subordinate. DTLHS (talk) 16:10, 26 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the tip. Swiftyfish (talk) 03:26, 27 November 2017 (UTC)


Could you please make a couple quick additions? The symbol ꘌ should repeat the vowel in the syllable preceding it (so if the prior syllable is fa, it should become faa). (Note: you may have to watch out for non-precomposed vowel symbols like ũ.) Also, when the symbol ꘎ is doubled, it should transliterate as ! instead of the expected ... —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 07:05, 27 November 2017 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge Can you add tests? Module:Vaii-translit/testcases. DTLHS (talk) 00:43, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge What if the vowel is already doubled (ꘞ)? DTLHS (talk) 02:06, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Those should be ignored. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:18, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge Should be transliterated? DTLHS (talk) 03:29, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
I just fixed that. Thank you! —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 03:30, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
Another one, . DTLHS (talk) 03:45, 28 November 2017 (UTC)

EWDC #2Edit

Hi! Here are your 10 random missing English words for this month.

Equinox 19:39, 30 November 2017 (UTC)

Need more workEdit

Hey! When you get a chance, could you update User:DTLHS/tracking/mostwanted/es? Pretty much everything not made on that page is useless crap that should be blacklisted or whatever. --Lirafafrod (talk) 20:23, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 21:08, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

Another angleEdit

Another useful place to go hunting for missing Spanish words may well be --Lirafafrod (talk) 20:27, 3 December 2017 (UTC)

@Lirafafrod User:DTLHS/eswikisource. I suspect many of these are obsolete forms, or OCR errors. DTLHS (talk) 22:04, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
Love you, D. --Lirafafrod (talk) 10:53, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
  • @Lirafafrod: Just a reminder that User:Metaknowledge/Español is still not done, and unlike Wikisource, it's not a pile of obsolete spellings... —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 22:55, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
    Yeah, I know about your subpage. But D's new one is way better, hence D gets my love. But I hope you and I can still be friends, MK. --Lirafafrod (talk) 09:44, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
    Anyway, it's kinda cool we've got the old Spanish and the new Spanish covered. Now we just need something in the range of 1920-2010 we can get our teeth into. --Lirafafrod (talk) 09:46, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
  • I suppose we could get one for Wikisource in English too. The other users would love it. --Gente como tú (talk) 12:28, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
User:DTLHS/enwikisource. Mostly garbage. DTLHS (talk) 18:17, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
There's a list of possibly interesting missing words at Category:Spanish verb plus plural noun compounds. --Per utramque cavernam (talk) 22:27, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, lots of garbage in enwikisource. How about a frwikisource, ptwikisource? I could do something with fr...--Gente como tú (talk) 12:56, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
User:DTLHS/ptwikisource, User:DTLHS/frwikisource (@SemperBlotto you may be interested in this). DTLHS (talk) 05:17, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
There's lots of English in that. Also medieval or even older French. I'll have a look though. SemperBlotto (talk) 05:24, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
@Gente como tú User:DTLHS/eswikipedia DTLHS (talk) 22:10, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
  • Hey! Could you rerun User:DTLHS/eswikipedia after the next WT dump is published? As you may have noticed, I've been working on it a lot recently (to an unhealthy level...). Anything in the first 100 hits of the current version can be discounted. And anything ending in -ion (not íon). And anything with non-Spanish letters like æ, û, ã, ä etc. And (probably) anything less than four letters long. --Gente como tú (talk) 12:55, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
Updated, now with 20,000 words. DTLHS (talk) 05:32, 24 January 2018 (UTC)


hi i defined uwu earlier x3. why did you remove it? owo i think that its a very important word for people to understand. just want to know your reasoning uwu

I'll restore it with RFV. You should provide evidence of its use. DTLHS (talk) 03:32, 9 December 2017 (UTC)

Non-combined Spanish verbsEdit

Hey. Your next task, should you accept, is to generate me a list of all Spanish verbs that don't include the "combined=1" bit. Most will probs be combineable, I figure --Gente como tú (talk) 21:04, 23 December 2017 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/cleanup/es combined DTLHS (talk) 18:37, 25 December 2017 (UTC)


Not sure why you reverted my edit. This word is NOT in the AWS (Afrikaanse Woordelys en Spelreëls), but "voertsek" is. The Afrikaans spelling is like what you have at voertsek. Regards. Naudefj (talk) 05:56, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

You need to use WT:RFV if you would like to dispute this word. DTLHS (talk) 15:15, 25 December 2017 (UTC)

EWDC #3Edit

Hi! Here are your 10 random missing English words for this month.

Equinox 04:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)


thanks for continuously upkeeping my tempalte errors w/ etymologies. sorry im screwing up so many times 2600:387:5:803:0:0:0:B2 18:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)

It's fine, your mistakes can be corrected. DTLHS (talk) 18:50, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
This person is playing the newbie card, but see User talk:יבריב. This is a banned user trying to ram through the same shoddy edits that have been reverted at least twice before- all of them. They vacuum up tons of data from sources they only think they understand, then spew it indiscriminately into huge numbers of entries so that it would take years to properly sort through and correct the content errors- bad formatting is just a side-effect of their disdain for detail. @Metaknowledge and @Wikitiki89 have dealt with them more directly than I have.
While it's true that this IP range is randomly assigned to lots of different users by the ISP, there are still things a checkuser can see that link this IP to the IPs that have been continuing יבריב's assault on Wiktionary since they were blocked several months ago. Chuck Entz (talk) 02:29, 31 December 2017 (UTC)


Hey. For the Spanish tracking lists, can you add to the blacklist any words ending in "ion" without the tilde, "acute", anything with numbers or punctuation, or anything less than four letters long. Cheers. --Gente como tú (talk) 17:52, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 01:42, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
And also anything preceding or following an @ symbol. Or anything with more than one accent, or more than one x. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 14:09, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

NadandoBot and hieroglyphsEdit

Hello! NadandoBot seems to be inserting spaces after all colons in translation tables, which breaks the correct display of hieroglyphs (e.g. at diff). Is there any way it could be told not to do this within <hiero> tags and {{t-egy}} parameters? Thanks, — Vorziblix (talk · contribs) 07:56, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Sorry, yes I shouldn't be doing this. It won't happen in the future. DTLHS (talk) 00:54, 5 January 2018 (UTC)

AWB applicantEdit

Pkbwcgs has contacted me regarding xyr request for AWB CheckPage addition of more than 24 hours. I noticed you have edited that page somewhat recently so I am forwarding the ping. - Amgine/ t·e 18:44, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Luafying SpanishEdit

You may have noticed me cleaning up WF's es-verb templates and I'm feeling pretty over it. As I switch back and forth between Spanish and Catalan I can't help but wonder why we haven't brought Spanish templates up to the same level after all these years. In many ways Spanish is more predictable... I would try copying from Catalan's code but I don't speak Lua or even template. Could you bring some level of automation to Spanish templates? Ultimateria (talk) 18:28, 8 January 2018 (UTC)

OK, I will try to work on this. DTLHS (talk) 00:47, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
@Ultimateria Starting with a function to generate noun plurals automatically. Could you look at Module:es-headword/testcases, and add or remove any rules that you think the module should take into account, as well as adding examples of those rules? Obviously Spanish plurals aren't entirely predictable by an algorithm so there will be an option to override the result. DTLHS (talk) 03:39, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Catalan's code is quite old, so it is missing some of the good practices I have learned since. That doesn't mean you can't copy it, but be aware. —Rua (mew) 15:15, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
I added just a couple of examples, from the same source I see. The one thing I didn't see there is -men > -´menes, which probably isn't the most correct way to describe the rule. Maybe -y > -is follows a pattern that's easily distinguished, but there are so few cases and so many exceptions that maybe it's better not to. Ultimateria (talk) 18:44, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
I think there's a rule there that we should be able to describe algorithmically. It's not just -men, there's also the analogous case of orden > órdenes and the like. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 19:04, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Thanks, Ult, BTW, for your "cleaning up" after me - it's true that I never add anything to the es-verb template - perhaps because I always thought that one day it'd all be Luafied anyhow (but mostly it's that I don't see much point as, after all, the conjugation is in the conjugation template at the bottom of the page so why bother repeating?). Anyway, I'll have a look at the Lua stuff and see if I can find any errors (just don't ask me to touch the Lua - I'm just as much a nulidad as Ult! --Gente como tú (talk) 18:53, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I hope I wasn't coming across as complaining. It's just...not 2008 anymore and we have robots to do our bidding now haha. (And I agree that it doesn't need to be in the headword but whatever. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯) Ultimateria (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
@Metaknowledge, Ultimateria, Gente como tú Should there be another rule for words ending in vowel+c? Spanish Wiktionary has frac / fraques but I don't know any other words with that pattern. DTLHS (talk) 06:50, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Found another one: clac / claques. One syllable only? DTLHS (talk) 07:00, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
I didn't know about claques! Hmm, it must be an expection or something. --Gente como tú (talk) 11:48, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
Or not, he aquí un artículo sobre el tema. --Gente como tú (talk) 11:56, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
coñac / coñacs? ("coñaques" seems pretty common on Google Books, although less than "coñacs"). DTLHS (talk) 00:56, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
"El plural de coñac es coñacs, sin tilde, porque la ese final va precedida de otra consonante." [4] --Gente como tú (talk) 11:29, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
Category:Spanish nouns with unpredictable plurals- now comparing the automatic plural generation with existing manual plurals. DTLHS (talk) 05:58, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
I think the multiword ones where each component word is predictable should not be categorised as unpredictable. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 06:07, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
I added some more code to try to predict noun + adjective plurals. DTLHS (talk) 06:31, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
@Ultimateria, Metaknowledge, Gente como tú Created {{es-noun-new}}, examples: ahorcador, abadí, comadreja, inspector. DTLHS (talk) 04:38, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Nice. I'm not so happy about common gender, though; I'd prefer to keep using m, f, which is more familiar to Spanish learners. Also, shouldn't we be able to predict feminine forms and just have f=1? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 05:35, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Maybe. I wonder if we can use the same rules for adjectives to convert nouns between their masculine / feminine counterparts? DTLHS (talk) 05:59, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
Hmm, I'll keep using the old template for now, but I may well learn the new one one day. --Gente como tú (talk) 15:17, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
I like the epicene label as opposed to a usage note. Maybe there should be a hover explanation or a link to the glossary? Ultimateria (talk) 16:32, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
I like the epicene label as well, and I support the idea of linking to the glossary. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 23:10, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


Hello, I noticed that your bot removed "{{anagrams|en|Bolton}}" from bolt-on. Is that correct? Shouldn't hyphens and other types of punctuation be disregarded for the purpose of anagrams? — SGconlaw (talk) 09:49, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

To me an anagram requires a rearrangement of letters. So "bolt-on" and "Bolton" aren't anagrams since they are the same up to removal of punctuation marks and capitalization. DTLHS (talk) 00:34, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
But since the main purpose of including anagrams was as an aid to crossword solvers, and in crosswords punctuation is ignored in anagrams, perhaps we should do the same? — SGconlaw (talk) 05:31, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
I do ignore punctuation. My algorithm is: remove punctuation and convert to lower case (bolt-on -> bolton, Bolton -> bolton, t!oLbN*ot -> tolbnot), then generate alphagrams (blnoot, blnoot, blnoot). Now all three words are in the same alphagram group, however, since bolt-on and Bolton were the same in step 1, they are not really anagrams. The output of this three word example would be bolt-on: anagram t!oLbN*ot, Bolton: anagram t!oLbN*ot, and t!oLbN*ot: anagrams bolt-on and Bolton. If I didn't filter based on rearrangement of letters I would essentially be duplicating what {{also}} does, and bolt-on and Bolton are linked by {{also}} already. DTLHS (talk) 16:09, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
Oh, I see. Sorry, I misunderstood what you meant. — SGconlaw (talk) 17:38, 13 January 2018 (UTC)


@Gente como tú, Ultimateria Do you think this template seems like a useful idea? If so, I can try applying it to all the links at WT:RE:es and my own list. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 02:54, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

Looks useful, although a lot of the requested Spanish entries probably aren't in the RAE. DTLHS (talk) 03:00, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Sure! One reason I avoid the page is the messiness, and I think this would help clear it up. Ultimateria (talk) 03:06, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
Not sure what to do about the fact that many aren't in the RAE dictionary — the template has no way of knowing that. Would a manual override help? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 04:38, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
It's pretty sweet. --Gente como tú (talk) 15:19, 17 January 2018 (UTC)


Shouldn't that be tungusologist? SemperBlotto (talk) 05:45, 16 January 2018 (UTC)

No, from what I see it's always capitalized. DTLHS (talk) 05:47, 16 January 2018 (UTC)


Would you like to elaborate on why you feel I should attend to this?__Gamren (talk) 16:17, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

It was created by a new, untrustworthy account that does not know how we format entries. When an attention tag is placed on such an entry, the job of the person who reviews it is firstly to confirm that it is correct, and then add any basic information that it is lacking (for Danish nouns, I'd say that gender and inflection are basic). —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 16:51, 19 January 2018 (UTC)

chemistry wordsEdit

I have made a start on your chemistry words. I am ignoring, for the moment, the more sum-of-parts ones - but I'll return to them soon. Some (such as "eegonine") are scannos. SemperBlotto (talk) 07:12, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

Feel free to remove any you don't think should have entries. DTLHS (talk) 21:32, 26 January 2018 (UTC)

navegabilidad et al.Edit

Thanks for your work so far on the templates! Just thought I'd bring these "es" plurals to your attention. Ultimateria (talk) 00:58, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

I'm fixing it now. DTLHS (talk) 00:59, 29 January 2018 (UTC)


Hi, your bot made a mistake here. m-f-p is not a valid gender, it should be m-p and f-p separately. —Rua (mew) 20:06, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

semicolons in defn linesEdit

Hey D. As the resident cleanup-page creator, can I ask for a new one - ones with a semicolon at the end of the definition line. I come over a few of them in my time, most of which are as a result of Wonderfool's slapdashness. --Gente como tú (talk) 11:16, 30 January 2018 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/cleanup/definition semicolons DTLHS (talk) 01:22, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
All done. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 11:15, 1 March 2018 (UTC)

Rollback to ye etymology 2 is in errorEdit

The information I added to that etymology & the corrections, why did you revert them? Is it because a previous admin roll'd back my edits? He didn't take issue with the content/information contain'd therein, he took issue with me using "look'd" &c. Can you please look into this? JustinCB (talk) 03:46, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

I reverted my rollback, sorry. DTLHS (talk) 03:48, 31 January 2018 (UTC)

EWDC #4Edit

Hi! Here are your 10 random missing English words for this month.

Equinox 23:30, 1 February 2018 (UTC)

Couple of Nadandobot issuesEdit

Hi, so the bot did this The formatting stuff is fine, but it changed the Wikipedia link to refer to the wrong page, albeit the one with the more similar title. Would adding the Wikipedia usage of asperitas other than the cloud fix this, and is there a contingency for other situations like this? IIRC I might have seen a similar error in the past. Also, it changed "characterised" to "characterized"; not as big an issue, but isn't this kind of bad etiquette? Anyway, the other formatting stuff is cool so thanks for that

AllenY99 (talk) 07:36, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

No, it was you who made those edits. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 07:38, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
What the... sorry, you're right. That's very strange, perhaps I accidentally submitted one version then another. Should I delete this thread? AllenY99 (talk) 11:52, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

blue linksEdit

Hi there. Is it OK to remove blue links from the "words" part of your user page - or would you prefer to do it yourself? SemperBlotto (talk) 06:00, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Go ahead. DTLHS (talk) 06:00, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Lang FormattingEdit

Thank you for your recent Lang Formatting iteration with NadandoBot. It makes parsing easier for other autonomous tools, and I was thinking of doing something similar myself. Isomorphyc (talk) 22:25, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

You write Python right? My code is on github if you want to collaborate- I'll send you an email. DTLHS (talk) 22:43, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

dull bot taskEdit

Hey. Any chance I could hire your bot (for the usual price, of course, but I'm willing to pay double the going rate) to replace all entries in this cat that end in -ite from {{lb|en|mineralology}} to {{lb|en|mineral}}? --Pas un coiffeur (talk)

Re:Deccan / DeccaniEdit

Dear User:DTLHS, thank you for your message on my talk page. Deccan typically refers to a region of the Indian subcontinent whereas Deccani refers to a dialect of the Urdu language. I hope this helps. With regards, Anupam (talk) 04:55, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

It's hard to be sure what to do here, because "Deccan" is about an order of magnitude more common than all the other forms (unscaled, scaled), but also refers to other things and not just the language (although google books:"Deccan language" it clearly sometimes refers to the language, as do "Deccani" and "Dakhini" and several other spellings). - -sche (discuss) 05:11, 14 February 2018 (UTC)
Well, since Anupam probably knows more than we do, and there's currently only 1 Deccani entry, I've changed the name. DTLHS (talk) 23:40, 14 February 2018 (UTC)

EWDC #5Edit

Hi! Here are your 10 random missing English words for this month.

Equinox 00:23, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

Spanish words in lots of listsEdit

Hey. How easy would it be to generate a list of red links found on numerous pages? In my case, I'm interested in Spanish red links which appear on more than two of those found here, as well as some of User:Matthias Buchmeier's subpages, and possibly others. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 13:27, 6 March 2018 (UTC)

It's easy, just give me a specific list of pages you want included. DTLHS (talk) 01:50, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
User:DTLHS/mostwantedspanish. I didn't include Matthias Buchmeier and hus subpages since it's too annoying to try and parse in 5 minutes. DTLHS (talk) 01:42, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
Gracias, D. It's a useful list, albeit rather uninspiring. But that's not your fault, it's the fault of all the excellent editors who spend their free time filling in red links. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 18:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

Another thingEdit

We should probably Luaify {{es-adj}} sometime too. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 22:52, 7 March 2018 (UTC)

Citations:mens et delEdit

Thank you for fixing my error. Sorry for the bother. Cnilep (talk) 03:15, 9 March 2018 (UTC)

ts= in MOD:headwordEdit

Hey, could I ask you to add the new |ts= parameter to MOD:headword and it's templates? I've never really worked seriously with this module, and it would take me a long time to familiarize myself with it. |ts= is already implemented in MOD:links. Would you be up to do this? I can provide specs if necessary. —*i̯óh₁n̥C[5] 22:07, 11 March 2018 (UTC)

OK. What are the specs, how should it be displayed? Should it get a new CSS class? DTLHS (talk) 00:41, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
Of course:
  • We used '<span class="ts mention-ts Latn">/', '/</span>' in MOD:links, though I'm not sure whether a css class was actually created for it.
  • As seen also seen in MOD:links, we add / characters around all transcriptions. These should perhaps be wrapped in a span and get their own css class as well.
  • I think we'll probably want this the ability to link in transcription modules accessing a function called ts which functions like tr. I'm debating whether transliterations should feed transcription, or whether they should be separate functions. The advantage of the former option is that a user could provide a "hinted" transliteration that would be interpreted by a transcription module, as in the case of Hittite Sumerograms and Akkadograms.
  • Also, transcriptions should trigger the appearance of the transliteration policy bullet in the headword as transliterations do.
Does this all make sense? —*i̯óh₁n̥C[5] 01:21, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
@Erutuon: So did we give up? —*i̯óh₁n̥C[5] 04:40, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
We could use a different name for the parameter... DTLHS (talk) 04:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
Actually, your other solution, putting it somewhere after "f=alt" rather than in its proper place in the table literal, would be better, because it wouldn't require people to learn a new parameter name. — Eru·tuon 06:00, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Module:script utilities is brokenEdit

Lots of page errors. Benwing2 (talk) 01:54, 12 March 2018 (UTC)


Hey. Could you put a pl3= in the code. It's for maravedí, which has 3 possible plurals. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 12:21, 15 March 2018 (UTC)

Odd revertEdit

Sorry about that. I have no recollection of doing this; I suspect I might have bumped my touchpad inadvertently when viewing the page history and then immediately closed the browser tab without noticing the revert. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 19:40, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

No problem. DTLHS (talk) 19:42, 19 March 2018 (UTC)

alliteration categoryEdit

Is there a category for putting alliterative phrase articles in? For example macho man or werewolf? I think that would be cool to have. ScratchMarshall (talk) 03:53, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

No. What would be the criteria for putting an entry in such a category? DTLHS (talk) 03:58, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Category:Missing Spanish noun formsEdit

Hey. I've checked all these - I reckon it's safe to have your bot run the plurals now. I can't guarantee total 100% error-freeness, but out of 1000, maybe one or two will be wrong, but we'll find them sooner or later. --Otra cuenta105 (talk) 12:27, 22 March 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll run it soon. DTLHS (talk) 18:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)


Hi, this proper name has a typo, the actual name is Erblin with no 'l' between 'r' and 'b'.


Etimo (talk) 08:21, 23 March 2018 (UTC)

If you want a page deleted please mark it with {{delete}} or {{RFD}}. Unexplained blanking of pages will be reverted. DTLHS (talk) 16:05, 23 March 2018 (UTC)


Thanks for adding the language headers on ειρωνικ* words. Don't know how I could have forgotten them... These "cleanup" pages of yours are very useful, first time I see them. — Orgyn (talk) 05:19, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Sure, let me know if there's a page I haven't updated in a while that you're interested in working on. DTLHS (talk) 05:41, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


It is not a word of the ancient Greek language nor of the Hellenistic Koine, but of Byzantine era. I would ask you to be more careful in your undos. Svlioras (talk) 05:23, 26 March 2018 (UTC)

Byzantine Greek cannot be a level two language header. If you want it to be added I suggest you bring it up in the Beer Parlour, and / or talk with other Ancient Greek editors, such as @Erutuon, JohnC5. DTLHS (talk) 05:29, 26 March 2018 (UTC)


Hello, is this word "אונגאַרן" correct in Yiddish? Gioielli (talk) 09:32, 5 April 2018 (UTC)

You're the one who added it- why are you asking me? @Metaknowledge. DTLHS (talk) 15:29, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
@Gioielli: If you ever have to ask random users whether a word you've added is correct, that's a good sign you shouldn't add it. In this case, however, it is, and I've cleaned up the entry. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 16:23, 5 April 2018 (UTC)


Ok thanks. Ah is it possible adding invented words on wikitionary?

Gioielli (talk) 14:30, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
No, invented words are not allowed. DTLHS (talk) 15:56, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

Ok pardon. Does Wikitionary has only real languages eh? Gioielli (talk) 16:12, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

A curiosity, is the Aramaic Hebrew language spoken today? Gioielli (talk) 10:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

EWDC #6Edit

Hi! Here are your 10 random missing English words for this month.

Equinox 21:24, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

Removal of Lojban definitions by NadandoBotEdit

Hello, I have noticed that NadandoBot has recently moved most of the Lojban definitions to "Appendix:" pages in the English Wiktionary, and also removed Lojban translations in the same. What is the motivation of such a move? Is this an application of some Wiktionary guideline I am not aware of, whereby the Lojban constructed language would be out of place on this Wiktionary? Regards, Oiseau Furtif (talk) 21:00, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

[[5]] DTLHS (talk) 21:09, 11 April 2018 (UTC)


Hey again. I was thinking it would be super kind of us en.wikt types to make a page like User:DTLHS/eswikipedia for the es.wikt types. It'll be nice for interwiki relations. Can you do such a thing? --Cien pies 6 (talk) 07:40, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. DTLHS (talk) 15:50, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
To find pages missing in es.wikt - common words in es.wikipedia without an entry in es.wikt --Cien pies 6 (talk) 12:13, 13 April 2018 (UTC)

Excuse me?Edit

I have made a page for a -ist for something, and it's a real thing.

kalology is a page, but you've removed my page for kalologist? That just doesn't come across as fair for me...

RainbowToffee (talk) 04:57, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

kalology is attested. "kalologist" is not. Read WT:CFI. DTLHS (talk) 04:58, 14 April 2018 (UTC)

De-blue the trackingEdit

Hey. Maybe it's a good time to send NadandoBot into antiblueing the Tracking pages. I reckon we could find a fair few of those pages to be deleted. --Cien pies 6 (talk) 12:48, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

NadandoBot's strange editEdit

NadandoBot is making this strange edit which seems unnecessary, with the irrelevant edit summary "updating anagrams". — SGconlaw (talk) 05:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

As I "update anagrams" I also need to rearrange the page to make sure categories are at the end. Sometimes there are no anagrams but the rearrangement happens anyway- I'll try to catch that for the next run. DTLHS (talk) 05:07, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
OK, thanks. — SGconlaw (talk) 08:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
I wouldn't worry about it if I were you. --Cien pies 6 (talk) 07:10, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
What is undesirable is that the categories are already in order (alphabetically, in this case) at the end of the entry, but the bot rearranges them and introduces a blank line between two of the categories. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:21, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, but who cares, right? --Cien pies 6 (talk) 08:48, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
I guess I do. It irks me somewhat that a bot is introducing extra lines, etc., unnecessarily. — SGconlaw (talk) 09:53, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

Bot errorEdit

Hi, your bot should not make edits like this, where it reorders sections that are at the same level as multiple etymology sections. The page was not formatted correctly, of course, but the problem was that the section was at the wrong level, not in the wrong place. Obviously there is no way for the bot to tell, so it should not attempt to fix it, but rather tag it for a human to fix. --WikiTiki89 02:43, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

How do you expect me to detect that? References can be validly at level 3 or level 4 (or even level 5), even with multiple etymologies. DTLHS (talk) 02:46, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
I just explained, but I'll clarify. The bot can't know what the right decision is, but it can know when it doesn't know. If it can be fixed by either moving the section or changing its level, then it doesn't know and should tag instead of fixing. --WikiTiki89 02:52, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
First of all, I don't tag entries- it just creates clutter that nobody is interested in dealing with. Secondly, you're right. I now realize that Wiktionary is utterly unparseable and I should give up trying to automatically format entries. DTLHS (talk) 02:58, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
No please don't give up, most of the formatting fixes your bot does are very helpful. If you're that much against tagging, then you can ignore that particular formatting error. And you can even log it and post the logs, which is basically as good as tagging but without the clutter. --WikiTiki89 03:09, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
That was an overreaction on my part. But I probably will give up on this particular task (header reordering). DTLHS (talk) 03:11, 26 April 2018 (UTC)


Hey buddy. Can we get User:DTLHS/tracking/mostwanted/es updated after the next dump, or whatever? --Cien pies 6 (talk) 11:54, 2 May 2018 (UTC)

Usage notes in english entriesEdit

How could I find every single usage note in entries of the english dictionary in the English language? Thnanks --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:12, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Use Cirrus search feature incategory: 'incategory:"English lemmas" "Usage notes"'. You could add something to restrict the result to, say, entries beginning with "g". DCDuring (talk) 15:20, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
That gets you pages that have the string "usage notes". but it would yield pages that have "usage notes" in languages other than English. DCDuring (talk) 15:25, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
@DCDuring: how could I restrict them just for the English language? --Backinstadiums (talk) 15:41, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Maybe through some use of "insource" with a suitable regular expression. I usually don't get into that for manual revisions. DCDuring (talk) 15:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I am asking you bc. I saw your list for the Arabic language. Unfortunately I do not have the skills to create one for English, which would be really useful for learners. --Backinstadiums (talk) 16:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
I can make you a list sometime this weekend. DTLHS (talk) 16:05, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
@DTLHS: I really appreciate it. I'd share it with the community, creating a page of its own in the category English_language. --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:30, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
@Backinstadiums User:DTLHS/English usage notes. Do not add to Category:English language. DTLHS (talk) 02:02, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
 ::: @DTLHS: Thank you so much. What's the best course of action for the list to remain up to date? --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:15, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Formatting change at 天邪鬼Edit

Hello, I was curious about this change. After your edit, the entire lines are italics, which is precisely what the <i> tags were for. The ''...'' notation doesn't seem to work correctly in {{n-g}} templates, which is why I'd resorted to using HTML tags. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 16:35, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

I was attempting to fix errors listed here. I see that my edit removed the italics so I've reverted it, but a solution should be found. DTLHS (talk) 16:39, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Cheers, thank you. I'll have a look at {{n-g}}, but I confess our module architecture can make bugs like this difficult to track down (for me, anyway). ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 16:40, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
@This, that and the other Any ideas what should be done here? DTLHS (talk) 16:49, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
Do we have a template that applies <span style="font-style:normal">…</span>? This would allow non-italic text to be included in templates which normally italicise their contents. If not, I think we need to create one. This, that and the other (talk) 01:30, 12 May 2018 (UTC)


beloveth is a to-do word on your user page. Clearly it should be an inflection etc. etc. but when I search Google Books I find a lot of weird stuff, mostly places where you'd expect beloved (noun, a person loved). Hmmm...? Equinox 23:07, 12 May 2018 (UTC)

I guess I'd call those poetic pseudo-archaisms... I see two time periods, the mid 19th century and this decade. DTLHS (talk) 23:17, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
It also seems like a lot of the modern uses are from Africa. DTLHS (talk) 23:22, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Speaking of which: where are you turning up these words? I see that some are in Wikipedia but others aren't; and there has been an interesting range of Englishes from Indian to African and Caribbean. Quite a cool list. Origins? Equinox 23:55, 12 May 2018 (UTC)
Regional newspapers ("beloveth" came from a Nigerian newspaper). DTLHS (talk) 00:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Cleansing of "gewinkeld"Edit

I am very new here and wanted to help by adding IPA and a declension table (which the page says it needs) to gewinkeld, why was this removed?

Do not invoke modules directly in entries. DTLHS (talk) 19:28, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
Yes you've already said that, I asked here because I dont understand what you mean. Coretteket (talk) 20:55, 20 May 2018 (UTC)
You wrote {{#invoke:nl-adjectives|show|past-ptc}} in the entry. That is directly invoking Module:nl-adjectives in the entry. You need to use a template that calls that module. DTLHS (talk) 20:59, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/head es nounEdit

Hey D. Any chance of a regen of User:DTLHS/head es noun? --Genecioso (talk) 18:29, 22 May 2018 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/cleanup/head es noun DTLHS (talk) 01:10, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
Return to the user page of "DTLHS".