Category talk:en:Traditional counties of Scotland

@Donnanz, Benwing2: This cat is throwing an error; is its title correct or not? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 06:09, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

@Metaknowledge The title is correct. There was a bug in handling of non-political subdivisions of countries and such; it's fixed now. Benwing2 (talk) 06:27, 24 February 2020 (UTC)

RFM discussion: January 2020

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Scottish Counties

I notice there is a new Category:en:Counties of Scotland (@Benwing2), however there is an existing Category:Traditional Scottish counties, admittedly rather old being created in 2007. I have been wondering how to properly bring this into the Scottish categories for some time, and wonder whether these two can be merged, but under the old (traditional county) title. DonnanZ (talk) 13:29, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Donnanz This can be done, although under the name Category:en:Traditional Scottish counties so it fits in the topic cat system. Maybe a name more consistent with the other categories would be Category:en:Traditional counties of Scotland, what do you think? Benwing2 (talk) 15:37, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Benwing2: I was thinking of the latter title, Category:en:Traditional counties of Scotland. It is of course non-conformist compared to other county categories, but I think the title should reflect that counties in Scotland don't exist any more, even though some old county names live on as council areas. DonnanZ (talk) 16:33, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

@Donnanz Category:en:Traditional counties of Scotland is implemented. {{place}} recognizes any of 'traditional county', 'former county', 'historic(al) county', 'ancient county', and 'medi(a)eval county' and either 'cc/Scotland' (constituent country) or 'c/Scotland' (country), and places the page in the above category. Likewise for 'p/Northern Ireland' and Category:en:Traditional counties of Northern Ireland. Just plain 'county' also works for both of them but I wouldn't recommend that as it doesn't clearly indicate the traditional/former/historical/whatever status of the county. See Kirkcudbrightshire for a complex example. Can you help empty Category:Traditional Scottish counties? Once that's done I can delete the category. Benwing2 (talk) 03:09, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

Also working are things like 'small historic county', as found in Kinross-shire. The complete set of qualifiers recognized (small, large, major, minor, etc.) are listed in Template:place/documentation. Benwing2 (talk) 03:24, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I also added 'carea' as an abbreviation of 'council area' so you can say 'carea/Midlothian' to refer to the Midlothian council area. Benwing2 (talk) 03:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Benwing2: It looks like you emptied Category:Traditional Scottish counties after you wrote that? Thanks for doing this.

I don't think we need Category:en:Traditional counties of Northern Ireland as they are the same as Category:en:Counties of Northern Ireland, the only change is the use by Republicans of Derry for Londonderry - all six are shown in the "Official Road Atlas Ireland" published by Ordnance Survey Ireland. Antrim is missing from the category, {{place}} doesn't seem to be working there, I think the others have been added manually.

Elsewhere, Category:en:Council areas of Scotland has been fully populated. DonnanZ (talk) 12:40, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Benwing2: BTW, OK on carea, market town doesn't generate "town" though (see Amersham). Still a manual category here. DonnanZ (talk) 16:48, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

@Donnanz Fixed. Benwing2 (talk) 01:58, 18 January 2020 (UTC)