Reconstruction talk:Proto-Japonic/poi

Vowel value

This appears in Eastern Old Japanese as pu. See also the bottom of the KDJ entry here at Kotobank. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:07, 29 March 2021 (UTC)

Is it connected to 日?

Sun and fired are both read as hi, is their a connection? Zzzwik (talk) 09:58, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

@Zzzwik: No, these do not appear to be related. 日 (“sun”) in Old Japanese was recorded phonetically as ⟨pi₁⟩, reconstructed as possibly /pi/ or /pʲi/, while 火 (“fire”) was recorded as ⟨pi₂⟩, reconstructed variously as /pwi/, /pij/, /pï/, or /pɨ/. Whatever the actual vowel values were, these two were clearly distinct and separate words in Old Japanese. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 20:54, 5 January 2023 (UTC)

Descendants

@Kwékwlos I have removed your unsourced and non-existent PR descendants in PR *pi (“fire”). Thorpe (1983) does not contain such descendants. Northern Amami evidence from Amami Hogen Bunrui Jiten Volume 2, Southern Amami evidence from Uchima, Yoron evidence from Yoron Hogen Jiten. Chuterix (talk) 11:59, 12 June 2023 (UTC)

Austronesian Comparison

Should "poy" be compared to Proto-Austronesian "*Sapuy" or Proto-Malayo-Polynesian "*hapuy"? 115.84.96.27 02:10, 11 November 2023 (UTC)

It's best to compare the ancestor Proto-Austronesian *Sapuy. However, this is extremely speculative, although I believe Proto-Austronesian *sa₂ (“locative marker”) may have been the initial *sa-. But other than that, I recommend you do not put any speculative comparison in the Japonic entries. Also I notice you've been editing with multiple IPs. I recommend you sign up for Wiktionary. Chuterix (talk) 19:26, 11 November 2023 (UTC)