Talk:Heley

I'm not really sure what our policy is, but I put a link to هيلی under {{also}} as the transliteration of هيلی is heley. Seem okay? Mglovesfun (talk) 14:32, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

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Is this a pure transcription or does it exist? Mglovesfun (talk) 13:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It undoubtedly exists as a family name, Google Books gets 395 hits for it, of which at least 350 are surnames, plus some referring to place names. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:58, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I think it is a variant of (deprecated template usage) Healey or (deprecated template usage) Haley SemperBlotto 14:06, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

It's a Pashto female given name, meaning Swan!

A variant of "Helen", apparently borrowed from Greek mythology "Helen of Troy".

I think you're the IP that created this article. Surely Pashto uses the Arabic script, not the Latin one? Mglovesfun (talk) 14:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

• This can't be Pashto. Pashto given names are written using the Pashto alphabet (similar to Arabic). SemperBlotto 14:39, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Exactly. But if you live in a non-arabic country then you have to identify yourself with "latin" script :-) Or were I expected to write its meaning in arabic script?" By the way, Pashto is an indo-European language, hence my initial definition of the name in analogy with the Greek myth, which has been edited.

This is a valid point IMO. But if this is a common name, is Heley how it is usually romanized? Searching "Heley" on the various Googles mostly turns up surnames, and even searching for "heley" and "afghan" on Google News doesn't turn up anything. Even given names still need to be attested independently at least three times in durable media. -- Visviva 15:04, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, but when writing "Heley", what language are the words surrounding it in? If they're in Pashto (i.e. Pashto script) then it's Pashto, possibly. But if it's in English, French, whatever, then those are not Pashto. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:47, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I added back the sense I removed, so now this is the only Latn entry in [[Category:Pashto proper nouns]]. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:52, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

-I als couldn't find any valid site online that could approve or at least provide the meaning of the name in Pashto. That's why I've started this article in wikipedia. As I've mentioned before, it is a female given name in Pashto and means Swan, in fact, the translation of the word Swan into Pashto is Heley. And it's most likely a variant of the name Helénē from the Greek myth of "Leda and the Swan". But it's rather a hypothetical explanation made on the basis of limited evidence as a starting point for further investigation.

De facto: It's a female given name.

• You just don't get it do you. We are not saying that it isn't a female given name (we don't know), but that it can't possibly be Pashto. The Pashto translation of (deprecated template usage) swan isn't (deprecated template usage) heley - it would be something written in the Pashto alphabet. We don't yet have this translation - please add it if you know it. SemperBlotto 16:44, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

هيلی apparently, ironically enough the user in question added this to the article, then deleted it. Since I don't know the script, I can onlyu copy-and-paste it here. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:08, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I honestly don't understand what you're trying to say, SemperBlotto. Let me put it this way: According to wikipedia torch or corposant is the meaning of the Greek name Helene but now, according to you it can't be correct because 'the greek trasnlation of torch is not Helena, then it would be something written in the Greek alphabet.' Namely: Ἑλένη! Point is, I've stated Heley as a Pashto female given name and its meaning in English. However, I probably should've written the article in "wikipedia" rather than wikitionary. Thanks anyway..

google.ps gets 108 hits for this in Pashto, none of which are relevant. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:17, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Ergo I moved it to the title above and put {{attention|ps}}. Anyone strongly disagree with that? Mglovesfun (talk) 17:22, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Why would you remove it?? — This comment was unsigned.

Striking, as this seems to have been resolved? —Ruakh_TALK 15:05, 7 November 2009 (UTC)