Talk:apologize
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Apologize is an alternate form of Apologise. Not the other way around.
- They're alternative forms of each other. Neither is more correct than the other, though the spelling with z is closer to the Greek original ἀπολογίζομαι (apologízomai). —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:55, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, both spellings have been in use for over 400 years. The Greek ἀπολογεῖσθαι (apologeîsthai) could be a reason for using the s form. Dbfirs 22:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, no; the earliest -ize words (such as baptize) came to English through the intermediaries of Latin and French, so a Greek middle infinitive is unlikely to have had any influence. I'm pretty sure the -ise variant was taken over from French -iser while the -ize variant came straight from Latin -izō. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction, and I agree with your view of the derivation, but why, then, do we have this insistence on going back to Greek forms? Dbfirs 20:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- Who knows? I could equally ask why we have this insistence on using French spellings. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 21:33, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- Thanks for the correction, and I agree with your view of the derivation, but why, then, do we have this insistence on going back to Greek forms? Dbfirs 20:29, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
- Well, no; the earliest -ize words (such as baptize) came to English through the intermediaries of Latin and French, so a Greek middle infinitive is unlikely to have had any influence. I'm pretty sure the -ise variant was taken over from French -iser while the -ize variant came straight from Latin -izō. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
- Yes, both spellings have been in use for over 400 years. The Greek ἀπολογεῖσθαι (apologeîsthai) could be a reason for using the s form. Dbfirs 22:02, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
pronunciation
editIn the 1958 film Vertigo, Scottie Ferguson pronounces apologize with a /ɡ/. (About 56 minutes in, standing outside his apartment building.)—msh210℠ (talk) 21:34, 4 April 2021 (UTC)