Talk:autem cackle tub

Latest comment: 18 days ago by -sche in topic RFV discussion: March–June 2024

Pulpit sense removed

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Removed the "pulpit" sense, which (per sources) appears to be a definition for a different phrase, simply "cackle tub" (no "autem"). See also John Camden Hotten's Slang Dictionary (1873). I can't cite it in any case. Equinox 22:31, 15 May 2021 (UTC)Reply

I don't know, I see a lot of sources just vaguely defining autem cackle tub as "a Dissenters' meeting-house or a pulpit", and at least one defining it as only the pulpit and not the house:
  • 1966, William Mole, Gods, Men, and Wine, page 411:
    from what the polite called the puplit and the irreverent the 'autem cackle tub'. The Tractarian movement of the 30s was a defence and not a counter attack. The attack came from rationalism which spread among the educated classes of England as it did among the same classes in Germany []
but I can't find uses of either sense. To RFV! - -sche (discuss) 14:03, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

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"(obsolete, UK, thieves' cant) A Dissenter's meetinghouse; a conventicle." Elsewhere mentioned as meaning a pulpit instead. I can't find uses. (A lot of other Thieves' Cant entries, and Vulgar Tongue entries, also seem unattestable.) - -sche (discuss) 14:05, 29 March 2024 (UTC)Reply

RFV-failed, and in deleting it I also noticed and re-deleted autem quaver tub and autem quaver, which previously failed RFV and were recreated without evidence of use, and I can't find uses now. - -sche (discuss) 01:21, 5 June 2024 (UTC)Reply


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