Your edit on [[Stoppel]]

Fragment of a discussion from User talk:Rua

What I don't agree with is saying that the word comes from MHG "stupfel". That's just clearly wrong.

CodeCat17:06, 8 June 2015

Sorry. This was ages ago, but I somehow hadn't seen your answer. I see your point. But I don't quite agree. Saying that modern "Stoppel" is from MHG "stupfel" doesn't mean that it directly developed out of this particular form. And this miscomprehension is ruled out by the following explanation, namely that the consonantism is northern.

What is meant is that "stupfel" was the MHG standard form -- MHG being very much a standardized language, by the scale of the time -- and that "Stoppel" is the continuation of this MHG word, even if its form has been influenced by northern dialects. Take Hafer. The word is a continuation of MHG haber even if its form has been influenced by Low German haver. A minor formal change in a word doesn't make it a completely different word that loses all connections with the MHG antecessor.

That's my point of view. But I think a compromise would be to say: from MHG stupfel, *stuppel, from OHG stuphila, *stuppila. So that's what I'll write.

Kolmiel (talk)14:07, 30 July 2015