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Why diff? The pronunciation is correct.​—msh210 (talk) 22:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

Also, why diff? From what I understand, {{l/en}} is preferably to {{l|en}} because it uses less resources; and plain wikilinks are better still in English sections only (and for the same reason).​—msh210 (talk) 22:02, 9 September 2015 (UTC)

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Module:ca-verb and Template:ca-conj-table010:15, 4 October 2015
template:got-nom form of417:46, 30 September 2015
ᚺᚨᛁᛚᚨᚷ317:38, 30 September 2015
I would appreciate your input at Wiktionary:Etymology scriptorium/2015/September#*vesti vs. *vezti020:59, 29 September 2015
module errors in la-adj102:25, 26 September 2015
gī, gij120:19, 24 September 2015
Removal of Category:Penutian languages and related categories320:04, 22 September 2015
Finnish allative is NOT llex414:54, 20 September 2015
Northern Sami verbal noun of borrat113:41, 19 September 2015
se- templates with module errors002:57, 19 September 2015
Reply: Why duplicate all that information when it's already in the Dutch entry?000:42, 17 September 2015
muil213:45, 12 September 2015
ḱr̥h₂os-714:01, 11 September 2015
Crimean Gothich schwalth121:15, 10 September 2015
Proto-Samic122:05, 9 September 2015
New spelling rules impacting hu-nominals018:41, 9 September 2015
Template:zh-hanzi005:26, 30 August 2015
Mewbot mistakes117:07, 22 August 2015
MewBot miscategorised a bunch of French noun plural forms121:55, 20 August 2015
Mewbot118:14, 19 August 2015
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Module:ca-verb and Template:ca-conj-table

Hi there. I'd like to add some parameters to this table for feminine and plural past participles. I did it for Template:ca-conj-table, but I can't understand modules. Would you be able to add the extra coding to Module:ca-verb to make them appear? Thanks for your great work

Zo3rWer (talk)10:15, 4 October 2015

template:got-nom form of

Hi. Where's the problem with my edit?

Ivadon (talk)17:04, 30 September 2015

"Strong" already means definite. There's no need for a separate "strong definite".

CodeCat17:05, 30 September 2015

What about the neuter forms there?

Ivadon (talk)17:21, 30 September 2015

What about them?

CodeCat17:37, 30 September 2015

Nom. and Acc. have two distinct forms, and they are used differently, see Gothic Grammar at Wiki. I don't know if Wiktionary should give them different names — but why not? By the way, their romanizations are broken.

Ivadon (talk)17:46, 30 September 2015


This word is only attested in runes. Everything else would be mere speculation. I'm currently working on the main entry, ᚺᚨᛁᛚᚨᚷᛊ, incuding the evidence.

Ivadon (talk)17:18, 30 September 2015

Our Gothic templates currently only support Gothic script.

CodeCat17:20, 30 September 2015

Well, thats a technical issue, but no reason to wipe out my work.

Ivadon (talk)17:24, 30 September 2015

Fine, I've restored it.

CodeCat17:38, 30 September 2015

module errors in la-adj

Thank you for clearing up the module errors with the se templates, but now there are a couple of module errors (at complures and conplures) that appeared following your edits to Module:la-adj/table.

Chuck Entz (talk)02:18, 26 September 2015

Hmm... it looks like along the way, one of the functions in the module got deleted. I will fix it tomorrow, there is no hurry I hope since it only affects two entries.

CodeCat02:25, 26 September 2015

gī, gij

Concerning Old Saxon and Dutch forms with g-, would the g come from the associative prefix ge-/gi- added to the front of the pronoun ? Leasnam (talk) 20:16, 24 September 2015 (UTC)

Leasnam (talk)20:16, 24 September 2015

Not very plausible. Some languages of the area have a general change of ji- to gi-, which can be seen in for example *jestuz.

CodeCat20:19, 24 September 2015

Removal of Category:Penutian languages and related categories

I consider your removal of those categories inappropriate, particularly without any explanation.

Purplebackpack8919:55, 22 September 2015

You know what the explanation is. You're adding these while a discussion is ongoing. Moreover, these categories are handled by automatic means and should be added through the appropriate data modules. Your actions are an attempt to circumvent that.

CodeCat19:59, 22 September 2015

It should still be permitted for people to manually add a category to another category. Just because you created a bunch of modules doesn't mean we all have to use them. Also, until the article is deleted, it is perfectly appropriate to add it to categories.

Purplebackpack8920:00, 22 September 2015

No, it's not.

CodeCat20:04, 22 September 2015

Finnish allative is NOT llex

Finnish allative ending is lle and not llex.

Please remove the x

I see from discussion on this page that the x is intended to signify a gemination.... but the gemination effect applies to ALL instances when a Finnish word ends in a single e- and rules do not allow for the e to be elongated to ee. For instance, the polite request "tulepa tänne" (come here) is pronounced as if it were written "tuleppa tänne". Your inclusion of a marker for this effect is inappropriate and confusing to the average reader. Even a Finn would not understand this llex terminology unless he or she is also an expert in phonetics. Or else a fan of Daniel Abondalo ;) ~~, 24 July 2015

CodeCat, you have done marvellous things for the Finnish templates, but I completely agree with the Anon commentator that you have erred on this one. The little x'es are merely confusing users. Be so kind and remove them.

Hekaheka (talk)05:11, 13 August 2015

Ok, I've removed it.

CodeCat11:40, 13 August 2015


Hekaheka (talk)06:18, 16 August 2015

"the gemination effect applies to ALL instances when a Finnish word ends in a single e"

Well, that is just not true. There is no clear rule to determine the presence or absence of the gemination. It should be indicated in a dictionary.

Yuhani (talk)14:54, 20 September 2015

Northern Sami verbal noun of borrat

How would you add an entry on Northern Sami verbal nouns such as borran?

Lo Ximiendo (talk)10:51, 19 September 2015

I created an entry for it.

CodeCat13:41, 19 September 2015

se- templates with module errors

It's not a big deal, but I'd appreciate it if you fixed them. Thanks!

Chuck Entz (talk)02:57, 19 September 2015

Reply: Why duplicate all that information when it's already in the Dutch entry?

To mark it into the terms from ... categories. Though if it were up to me wouldn't it be better to remove the whole English entry for this all together? There's no spelling or meaning change and its merely a cities name, this seems a bit pointless, regardless I felt like it doesn't harm to have the complete information if we are gonna leave the English entry.

Eliot (talk)00:42, 17 September 2015


Hi! I reverted the anon's edit because muil is already properly at *mūlą. I updated the etymology at muil to match.

Leasnam (talk)13:06, 12 September 2015

The gender doesn't match that though. The modern Dutch word is masculine.

CodeCat13:17, 12 September 2015

I know. When we first created the PGmc entry, we ended up placing it there as best/closest fit I believe we determined the Middle Dutch forms in -e (mule, muyle) were in dative case, so fem was ruled out

Leasnam (talk)13:43, 12 September 2015


Hi. Should PIE *ḱr̥h₂os- ‎(s-stem) be listed under Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/ḱerh₂- or Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/ḱerh₂s-? That form is the ancestor of the Indo-Iranian words for “head”.

Vahag (talk)00:41, 11 September 2015

I don't see why not.

CodeCat00:41, 11 September 2015

My question was under which root, the first one or the second one? I am not familiar with the rules of PIE derivation.

Vahag (talk)07:49, 11 September 2015

After a closer look, I think Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/ḱerh₂s- should be merged with Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/ḱerh₂-. What do you think?

Vahag (talk)08:27, 11 September 2015

I don't see why. They're different roots, even if they might be related.

CodeCat13:20, 11 September 2015

Which descendants point to Appendix:Proto-Indo-European/ḱerh₂s-? Only Germanic and Latin cerebrum?

Vahag (talk)13:39, 11 September 2015

Crimean Gothich schwalth

Hi! 1.) Do you think this should be moved to schvvalth because that's what Busbecq seems to have written? I know we also use "w" for what in many old Germanic languages is actually "uu" or "vv", but this case is maybe different with just one source? 2.) Why have you deleted the edit by one user who hinted at Germanic *sweltaną as a possible origin of this word. It's a perfect match at first sight. If there's a reason not to accept it, then it should be explained why. Don't you think?

Kolmiel (talk)18:32, 6 September 2015

I've edited the etymology now.

Kolmiel (talk)21:15, 10 September 2015


You seem to have rolled in a couple hundred Proto-Samic entries. Mind if I ask what's the plan for here on? Are you going to be sticking to crafting skeleton entries based on just Northern Sami for now, or are you intending to branch into the other Sami languages at some point?

I'll probably keep plugging in YSS data and etymologies for them bit by bit, but it's gonna take its time; and I'd like to get Proto-Finnic and Finnish derivational morphology to a better shape, too, so Proto-Samic is not going to be my #1 priority.

Tropylium (talk)21:46, 9 September 2015

Northern Sami is really the only Sami language I know enough about to make entries, so I'm sticking with it for now. I'm mainly using your Proto-Samic word list as a guide for creating basic Northern Sami vocabulary. And since we should have Proto-Samic entries anyway, I just create them along the way. I may eventually get to adding other Sami descendants, but I want to try to focus on one task so that I can get the entries out quicker.

CodeCat22:05, 9 September 2015

New spelling rules impacting hu-nominals

The Hungarian Academy of Sciences has published new spelling rules this month. The new rules impact the declension of proper nouns ending in two identical consonants, such as Bernadett. E.g.: The old spelling of the instrumental case was Bernadettel, the new is Bernadett-tel, to show the original form of the proper noun, the third identical letter is not dropped but a hyphen is inserted. While the existing v parameter is very conveniently resolves this for two cases without any change in the module, the other cases will need changes, e.g. Bernadett-től, Mariann-nak, Mariann-nál, Szent Jobb-ban, Szent Jobb-ba, Tarr-ra, Tarr-ról, Ahh-hoz. New parameters are not needed, just code change. Briefly summarized: If the first character is uppercase and the last two characters are nn, bb, rr, hh, tt, then apply new rules. I wanted to ask if you would have time to work on this? Thanks.

Panda10 (talk)18:41, 9 September 2015


You marked it for deletion last year; is it okay to use?

suzukaze (tc)05:26, 30 August 2015

Mewbot mistakes


DTLHS (talk)17:05, 22 August 2015

Thank you for letting me know, but the script that did that is probably already deleted as it was a one-off.

CodeCat17:07, 22 August 2015

MewBot miscategorised a bunch of French noun plural forms

as noun plural form\s. see here

Enosh (talk)21:47, 20 August 2015

Yes, that was an early mistake. I fixed it for English, I didn't realise it also affected French entries. I'll fix them soon.

CodeCat21:55, 20 August 2015


Your edits are showing up in recent changes- do you not have a bot flag any more?

DTLHS (talk)18:12, 19 August 2015

So are SemperBlottoBot's. It seems to be a sudden bug.

CodeCat18:14, 19 August 2015
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