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kweern217:08, 7 February 2018
(s)teg-122:02, 6 February 2018
escolhos001:00, 3 February 2018
Re dôre, door, Tor010:20, 2 February 2018, 29 January 2018
*madeh / *matadak112:31, 28 January 2018
The pronunciation of Old English hnīgan210:12, 16 January 2018
gebaarde116:51, 14 January 2018
'autocat'115:59, 13 January 2018
Latin reconstruction pages323:06, 9 January 2018
Re: diff 48378753 -- "glosses should not use Template:l"120:42, 6 January 2018
hur'ri318:55, 4 January 2018
gegevene215:48, 2 January 2018
uitrijden113:32, 28 December 2017
stokken020:36, 25 December 2017
iets220:00, 25 December 2017
rollbacker114:45, 25 December 2017
Sant Bhasha words deleted216:49, 19 December 2017
Parameters question100:42, 16 December 2017
smaak323:54, 14 December 2017
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Hi Rua ! I saw that you've added Dutch kweern to *kwernuz. Does this mean that it should be removed from *kwernō ? Please advise (talk) 16:43, 7 February 2018 (UTC)

16:43, 7 February 2018

No, I was mistaken. But wow, Germanic is such a pain with its different stem varieties...

Rua (mew)

16:53, 7 February 2018

I know...going forward perhaps I should create pages only for the bare stem, not the stem variety

17:08, 7 February 2018

On Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/(s)teg-, you asked "why -th-" a couple of times for Sanskrit words. Why shouldn't plain "t" change to dental "t"? Danielklein (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2018 (UTC)

21:45, 6 February 2018

The question is why there is aspiration.

Rua (mew)

22:02, 6 February 2018

Where did the information about its metaphonicity go, Rua?

01:00, 3 February 2018

Re dôre, door, Tor

I saw you added the rfe at dôre. A few sources connect either this or the German Tor to a Proto-Germanic *dauz-.

←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)

10:20, 2 February 2018

There's an anon editing and adding Old English pronunciations like this: [[1]].

Some edits this IP is making seem okay, but I've been reverting the ones like the above. Are they correct ? I've asked for clarification, but have got no response. It's a lot of reverting, so I'd hate to block this IP :\ ...

Any insight ?

18:57, 28 January 2018

It's probably some vague theory about the pronunciation that is given by one source. I would just get rid of it.

Rua (mew)

19:54, 28 January 2018

Thanks !

00:18, 29 January 2018

*madeh / *matadak

Entry for *madeh should be created but I have no information on it. SSA mentioned the made-mataa connection as possible, but someone had already linked them here through *madeh without remarks. Therefore I added the note in *matadak to make the connection to made visible.

00:54, 28 January 2018

Descendants should go on the actual entry for *madeh when it's created.

Rua (mew)

12:31, 28 January 2018

The pronunciation of Old English hnīgan

Hello Rua,

I'm curious in how you came to the conclusion of hnīgan having a voiced velar fricative g. Normally that sort of sound only comes when g is between two back vowels with the exception of l, r, or if the word descended that the 'g' was replaced by a 'w'.

Hope to hear from you soon.

05:57, 15 January 2018

In what way do you think I came to that conclusion? I'm not sure of the context here.

Rua (mew)

11:23, 15 January 2018

I had the impression that you assumed that Old English hnīgan's 'g' never changed into a 'back g'.

10:12, 16 January 2018

Hi Rua ! I added Etymology 2 at gebaarde, but I am not 100% certain of this. Information on this word is scant. Can you please confirm the inflected forms (plural and diminutive) ? Also, should this word for this meaning be labelled as obsolete ?

Thanks !

16:40, 14 January 2018

I've never heard of this word, I only know of gebaar.

Rua (mew)

16:51, 14 January 2018

Hello, I have seen on the talk page for 'PulauKakatua19' that you recommend to him to use 'autocat' to create a category. I didn't know about this, should 'autocat' always be used? Thank you in advance.

15:55, 13 January 2018

If you want.

Rua (mew)

15:59, 13 January 2018

Latin reconstruction pages

Hello. I wonder what's your yardstick for judging whether a reconstructed entry should be kept or not. Personally, I think we shouldn't have reconstructions when they only trivially differ from attested words. But I'm not always sure myself what would count as "trivial". *circlus seems totally useless, while *padule is already a bit more interesting. What do you think?

21:58, 9 January 2018

If they are alternative forms of attested words, they shouldn't be created. Only actual unattested words should have entries.

Rua (mew)

22:24, 9 January 2018

All right, that makes sense I guess. So you wouldn't keep *padule either, right?

22:45, 9 January 2018

No I wouldn't.

Rua (mew)

23:06, 9 January 2018

Re: diff 48378753 -- "glosses should not use Template:l"

In the edit summary for diff, you mentioned that "glosses should not use Template:l". I seem to have missed that memo. I've been quite active in using Template:l to specify the language of the linked term, in part due to various usability issues people have reported over time, such as when using tabbed languages.

Is there a specific reason not to use Template:l?

20:38, 6 January 2018

The TabbedLanguages issue no longer applies since changes were made to its code. It now defaults to English or Translingual.

Rua (mew)

20:42, 6 January 2018

Can you give some extra clues or citations for hurri ?

19:53, 3 January 2018

I've added Álgu links for both of the senses.

Rua (mew)

20:00, 3 January 2018

Thanks alot. Do you have any idea of the age of the word? Would it be out of question that the Finnish word was derived from it?

17:27, 4 January 2018

I don't think they're related. The "newcomer" sense is actually a bit vague, Álgu gives a more precise sense of someone who doesn't know how things are done. I'm not sure how that relates to the Finnish sense at all.

Rua (mew)

18:55, 4 January 2018

Can you define gegevene? -

03:38, 2 January 2018

I don't think you should be editing Dutch anymore. You make too many mistakes.

Rua (mew)

11:46, 2 January 2018

Which mistakes have I made on this one? -

15:48, 2 January 2018

Could you review this entry? -

03:14, 28 December 2017

Fixed. It was pretty bad, to be honest. The definition was totally wrong.

Rua (mew)

13:32, 28 December 2017

According to this, stokken can be translated as balk. -

20:36, 25 December 2017

Besides functioning as a pronoun meaning something or anything, can the word iets be used as an adverb? How would you best translate the phrase "een iets recenter verschijnsel"? -

19:52, 25 December 2017

As "somewhat". I think it is an adverb, yes. Similar to ietsje.

Rua (mew)

19:53, 25 December 2017

Thanks. I've added that adverb definition to iets.

20:00, 25 December 2017


Hello Rua, i need rollbacker rights.

14:45, 25 December 2017

Why are you asking me?

Rua (mew)

14:45, 25 December 2017

Sant Bhasha words deleted

An entries for these words under Sant Bhasha are deleted ਸੋਚੈ ਸੋਚਿ ਨ ਹੋਵਈ ਜੇ ਸੋਚੀਂ ਲਖ ਵਾਰ ਚੁਪੈ.

23:50, 10 September 2014

I deleted them because they were very badly formatted and would basically have to be redone. But more importantly, Sant Bhasha is not a language that's currently recognised on Wiktionary, and Wikipedia suggests that it's a constructed language like Esperanto. Languages that are not in Wiktionary's list of languages need to go through some kind of discussion process to assign them a language code, on WT:BP. But more importantly, minor constructed languages (which this seems to be) are not permitted at all.

23:55, 10 September 2014

A bit late now, but Sant Bhasha is just a liturgical variant of Punjabi (code pa). I've remade some of the deleted pages.


Parameters question

What's the point of having default values for required arguments?

00:41, 16 December 2017

The default value is used on template pages, where the requirement check is bypassed.

Rua (mew)

00:42, 16 December 2017

Also, in smaak, are you saying I am using {{inh}} incorrectly, or instead or additionally, that the derivation is not from *smakkuz? I was hesitant to work on the verbs (smaken, schmecken) because they have complexities which I thought nouns did not. If the problem is only the template, please tell me if my current understanding is correct: I should only use {{inh}} once per etymology section, for the most recent inheritance in the current chain. Thanks for helping me with these; it took you and JohnC5 a while to get my Latin etymologies to look right, an I'm afraid Germanic is more complicated.

23:12, 14 December 2017

{{inh}} was fine, it was *smakkuz. Modern long vowels come from either Proto-Germanic long vowels/diphthongs, or from short vowels in an open syllable. In Middle Dutch, these two types of long vowels are still different (we write the former as â ê ô and the latter as ā ē ō) and some dialects such as Limburgish still keep them apart. From a Proto-Germanic short vowel + geminate consonant you'd expect a short vowel in modern Dutch.

Since the modern word has a long vowel, it can't come from *smakkuz but must come from a form that satisfies either of the long-vowel criteria. Sadly, Limburgish has lost the word, and has borrowed smaak from Dutch, so it's no help here.

As for schmecken, it's from Proto-Germanic *smakjaną, a class 1 weak denominative verb.

Rua (mew)

23:19, 14 December 2017

@Isomorphyc, FWIW, the *smakkuz entry suggests this became Old Dutch smak, matching the closed-syllable pattern of a short vowel, and this then turned into Middle Dutch smake. That -e on the end suggests that the term might be parsed as sma + ke phonologically, making the a now an open syllable.

@Rua, am I parsing that correctly? And is the Descendants list correct as shown in the *smakkuz entry?

23:53, 14 December 2017

But then the question is where the extra vowel came from, and why the k was degeminated.

Rua (mew)

23:54, 14 December 2017
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