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E gl en fr de it an nl pt mwl es
D gl en fr de it an nl pt mwl es
F gl en mwl
L gl mwl  

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ḱǵʷʰ₁₂₃l̥m̥n̥r̥āēīōū<ḗ ṓ ā́ ī́ ū́-ĺ̥ḿ̥ń̥ŕ̥<<ə-k̂k̑ĝ

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I have been thinking all day about this topics (9-10 forms and variants for one concept!) and I have ended up realising that due to
1) my lack of knowledge on PIE evolutions
2) the lack of consensus on PIE as I understand (I have just read about the Leiden vs. Beekes conjugation, not to mention the glottalic theory) and
3) the lack of material at my disposal (not to mention Pokorny is not legitimate any more);

then I have to give up on doing anything systematic about Appendix:List of Proto-Indo-European roots, and even less about nominals/verbs. Unless you all feel I could be entitled to protract all the conflicting variants and intermediate etyms to the ultimate root, I have to desist. I am quite unsure and picky on this topic, and meticulous, systematic and think very theorically in general, so if I don't do it that way then I don't feel comfortable. I will indeed try to state the etymologies for the GL words I meet following the simple pattern GL<LA<PIE (starting from PIE, not from GL), so I will probably go through all of them, or at least try a few of them. I will rely only on the few modern available materials I found or could find that I think worth it (if you know any other, please let me know):

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  • GENERIC for LA>PIE on the net:
  • GENERIC for LA>PIE on book: unless (until) I buy or get the
  • SPECIFIC for GL>LA on book: 4 Galician
  • (Ir Indo/Estraviz/SéculoXXI/GDXeraisL) and 1 Portuguese
  • Houaiss general dictionaries stating etymology) and try to source my edits.
Of course I will try to leave track of my search on User:Sobreira/*pele- and so on (including all of them in upcoming User:Sobreira/PIE), to save time and work in case anyone with knowledge enough engage in the task of uniformizing the chaos. In that case, I would appreciate the courtesy of being warned. Thanks all for the recommendations, knowledge shared, respectful and patient treatment and time.
  • And because all of this, I think we should consider seriously the proposal of transclusion I said above, or some other way of solving this problem. Sobreira (talk) 17:53, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
I've digitized for my own research use a list of all roots in {{R:ine:LIV}} some time ago; I'd still need to verify it against Kümmel's online repository of

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As cores do sol: Colours in PIE

User:Sobreira/PIE-appendices and categories

to do2 edit

  1. create in Category:Proto-Indo-European terms by PIE root
  2. insert { {PIE root see}} in root
  3. insert in derived { {PIE word}}, but they won't let me

also:

Policies edit

  • Not reconstruct when descendants in only one language? No, redirections.
  • Simply Alternative forms with only one

Everything You Always Wanted to Know About PIE (*But Were Afraid to Ask) edit

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