Deletion
edit@Atitarev Should we delete this? It looks like a clumsy duplication of Аэрофлот. --KoreanQuoter (talk) 06:09, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- It's Bulgarian, Ukrainian, S.-Croatian, etc. Not interested in doing right it now. Add RFD, if you wish, someone may pick it up. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:12, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Oh, this explains very well. --KoreanQuoter (talk) 06:13, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
RFD
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The following information has failed Wiktionary's deletion process.
It should not be re-entered without careful consideration.
It's Bulgarian, Ukrainian, S.-Croatian (Cyr.), etc. Not Russian, see Аэрофлот. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 06:17, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- w:ru:Аэрофлот backs you up. I believe you, just delete it. Renard Migrant (talk) 22:25, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- Speedied but can be restored as Bulgarian, Macedonian, Serbo-Croatian (Cyrillic) and Ukrainian entries. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's not restoration, that's creating a new entry. Renard Migrant (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's nit-picking, but the entry could have been "converted" to the correct languages rather than delete it. I have done this before. Donnanz (talk) 08:19, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- You're right, of course. Often reworking takes more time then creating new entries. I just didn't feel like doing it then and hoped that someone would do it (which is easy, even if one doesn't know these languages). Since nobody did, I did it myself now (I don't think I had to, though). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Excellent. You must know more about these languages than I do - absolutely nothing! Donnanz (talk) 09:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, Slavic languages are very close but knowing that these are all proper nouns meaning "Aeroflot" is not much knowledge really in this case. I am not 100% sure about the stress in Makedonian and no idea about the diacritics in Serbo-Croatian, so I didn't add them. Even if these entries were made without the gender info, they would be still fine as a temp solution, don't you think? My point is, you can create entries in ANY language, if you're certain about the info (Pos, sense) and know the format of entries for these languages. :) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 09:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, they must be a wee bit like the Scandinavian languages in that respect, although one has to be aware of spelling variations with those. Donnanz (talk) 09:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Cyrillic-based and close Slavic languages have variations and even traps too. Compare Russian/Ukrainian pairs: е/є (je), э/е (e), и/і (i) and ы/и (y). They are quite confusing, if you know only Russian or Ukrainian. I think it's maybe more confusing than ö vs ø. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:49, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- The Balkan sprachbund and the Ottomans in the past influenced the South Slavic languages very differently compare to East Slavic and West Slavic languages. And there's Bulgarian, a Slavic language that I think it has way too many French, Italian expressions and Turkish loanwords in colloquial situations, unlike Russian. --KoreanQuoter (talk) 10:59, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, they must be a wee bit like the Scandinavian languages in that respect, although one has to be aware of spelling variations with those. Donnanz (talk) 09:27, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Yes, Slavic languages are very close but knowing that these are all proper nouns meaning "Aeroflot" is not much knowledge really in this case. I am not 100% sure about the stress in Makedonian and no idea about the diacritics in Serbo-Croatian, so I didn't add them. Even if these entries were made without the gender info, they would be still fine as a temp solution, don't you think? My point is, you can create entries in ANY language, if you're certain about the info (Pos, sense) and know the format of entries for these languages. :) --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 09:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Excellent. You must know more about these languages than I do - absolutely nothing! Donnanz (talk) 09:11, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- You're right, of course. Often reworking takes more time then creating new entries. I just didn't feel like doing it then and hoped that someone would do it (which is easy, even if one doesn't know these languages). Since nobody did, I did it myself now (I don't think I had to, though). --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 08:53, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's nit-picking, but the entry could have been "converted" to the correct languages rather than delete it. I have done this before. Donnanz (talk) 08:19, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- That's not restoration, that's creating a new entry. Renard Migrant (talk) 21:56, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
- Speedied but can be restored as Bulgarian, Macedonian, Serbo-Croatian (Cyrillic) and Ukrainian entries. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 22:29, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
Did you really delete the history?Dixtosa (talk) 10:22, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Sorry, I did but there was nothing sexy there, see Special:Undelete/Аерофлот. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:49, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Not wrong to delete the history of a deleted entry. The fact it subsequently gets recreated in a different language is irrelevant. Renard Migrant (talk) 15:18, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- Striking out so the archiver knows this is closed, and has been speedied as per above. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:26, 24 April 2015 (UTC)