Talk:flaming faggot

RFD discussion: March 2016

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flaming faggot

SoP? Possibly a common collocation, but then so is "stupid bastard". Equinox ◑ 13:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

Delete. I have copied the citation to [[faggot]]. If this entry is deleted, the search engine would take the user to [[faggot]]. I will add a link from flaming in the citation to an appropriate target definition as well. DCDuring TALK 13:09, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

• Delete, precisely per nom. bd2412 T 16:53, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

• FYI Flaming faggot has a specific origin: "Faggot" is an archaic term for a stick, or more recently, for a cigarette. So, contrary to SoP flame originally was in a literal sense, and for many people it still conjures up the same visual imagery. I don't know if this justifies the entry in wiktionary. 73.71.174.75 18:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

  FWIW I object to Wiktionary entries where the definition fails WT:CFI but they have interesting etymologies or pronunciations. That to me seems to be beyond the job of a dictionary. In this case I'm not sure you're right anyway. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:06, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

  But the supposed "flaming sticks -> homosexual" origin is a myth, isn't it? Equinox ◑ 18:49, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

  Yes, it is. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 19:37, 13 March 2016 (UTC).

  Faggot should really explain the sense development from bundle of sticks to homosexual (and the other meanings also). Or if unknown, we should put that. Renard Migrant (talk) 20:01, 13 March 2016 (UTC)

  OED says it's a development of the obsolete derogatory term for a woman (because gay men tend to be seen as feminine, presumably). Equinox ◑ 19:19, 15 March 2016 (UTC)

  And where does that definition come from? Incidentally I discovered last week my local library has a copy of the OED, it's quite nice living 15 minutes walk from the city centre of a major city most of the time. Renard Migrant (talk) 13:45, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

• Flaming has the definition "Extremely obvious; visibly evident. Typically of a homosexual male". So... yeah. Delete. Renard Migrant (talk) 18:03, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
• Delete - TheDaveRoss 13:48, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
• Delete per nom and Renard. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:46, 20 March 2016 (UTC)

deleted -- Liliana • 12:43, 27 March 2016 (UTC)