Talk:ill
"My bill is ill."
Can you provide the exact meaning for the same?
Ill as a verb
editIn w:You've Come a Long Way, Baby the past participle form "illin" occurs, as a euphemism for "fuckin". __meco 07:01, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
"not" meaning
editIt can also mean 'not', as in, "They could ill afford to make another mistake." Wrad 23:17, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
- I've added "scarcely" as a sense for the adverb. I think that's slightly closer than simply "not". DCDuring TALK 16:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
- And thanks for mentioning it. DCDuring TALK 16:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
Comparative and superlative
editThere is a comment in the source: "worse" and "worst" are incorrect—these are forms of "bad", not "ill". However, dictionaries list the two forms as the comparative and the superlative (ill at Dictionary.com). There is an example of worse as a comparative of ill:
- He is an ill-mannered guest and worse-mannered host. (Hugh Cudlipp, At your peril, 1962)
Google Books also gives examples of worse-tempered as a comparative of ill-tempered: [1] [2]. In a point of view of descriptive linguistics, worse and worse are clearly forms of ill. — TAKASUGI Shinji (talk) 02:00, 29 July 2013 (UTC)
Verb in hip-hop?
editNo idea what it means, but: "Step back relax and chill as I thrill / The K is back I`m not here to ill / Laying knowledge through the mic..." - Got To Get by Leila K. Equinox ◑ 10:10, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
Derived terms in Chambers 1908
editChambers 1908 has some mostly SoP terms (but some aren't?): "Ill-blood, ill-feeling: resentment. adjs. Ill-boding, inauspicious; Ill-bred, badly bred or educated: uncivil. n. Ill-breeding. adjs. Ill-conditioned, in bad condition: churlish; Ill-got = ill-gotten; Ill-haired (Scot.) cross-grained; adj. Ill-wresting, misinterpreting to disadvantage." Equinox ◑ 02:23, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
Adverb ill (comparative more ill, superlative most ill)
editAny reference to this statement? Microsoft® Encarta® 2009 disagrees with it. See also https://www.wordreference.com/EnglishUsage/worse --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:53, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
What meaning is used in ill at ease? --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:05, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- The adverb. Equinox ◑ 17:10, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- @Equinox: Thanks. Regarding the referred etymology of malaise, it reads "from mal- (“bad, badly”) + aise (“ease”)", are both “bad, badly” adverbs? --Backinstadiums (talk) 18:03, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
- I don't think words have been historically derived by strict grammarians working out what part of speech they are. Equinox ◑ 05:48, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
what does ill mean in it's an ill bird that fouls its own nest? --Backinstadiums (talk) 17:27, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
ill- : adverb
editIll can be used in combination with other adjectives or participles to mean "badly, improperly; inadequately: ill-considered (= not thought out well in advance; inappropriate); ill-defined (= not well defined or clearly set out). https://www.wordreference.com/definition/ill
Adjective: more/most ill
editWhy are these forms added here specifically for a monosyllabic word? --Backinstadiums (talk) 18:19, 24 June 2021 (UTC)
e.g. "money I could ill afford to lose"
editDoes the only existing adverb sense ("Not well; imperfectly, badly") cover this adequately? I am not totally convinced. Equinox ◑ 23:39, 11 September 2021 (UTC)