Talk:radio drama
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Sum of parts - a drama broadcast by radio. SemperBlotto 09:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- "a form of audio storytelling", that's a really bad definition. Anyway, delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:19, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep: It's an art form (genre) and not limited to radio. --Wiki-Updater 2.0 09:26, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Evidence? Mglovesfun (talk) 09:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep; there are a number of hits on radio drama and podcast on Google Books, and I've added one to the entry about a new creation with no implication of being destined for Internet radio.--Prosfilaes 21:03, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- As the entry stands now, only the 2005 quote illustrates non-NISoP usage. IOW, the portion of the definition required to warrant keeping the entry has not yet been sufficiently attested. I think it needs to be made for a medium other than radio in its original airing to make the case clearly. "Podcasting" would seem to provide a good collocation for finding such cites. DCDuring TALK 21:56, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
- Fine, I added two cites from Usenet, including the succinct "Radio dramas in America are online."--Prosfilaes 07:00, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
Please compare this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Audio_theatre and this: http://dict.leo.org/forum/viewUnsolvedquery.php?idThread=163112&idForum=1&lp=ende&lang=de and this idea of the German one Wiki-Uploader: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Audio_theatre I would say an entry to radio drama should be made better. But I am a German also. with friendly greeting and Happy Christmas, Sönke --Soenke Rahn 01:49, 22 December 2010 (UTC) here another dictionary entry, which will indicate that a radio drama is a audio drama which was aired in the radio. compare the TV button which was forgotten on the word radio play. (That the button was forgotten is clear to see, because the writters will not place useless this button on radio drama.) --Soenke Rahn 22:58, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
- Keep per WikiUpdater PBP89 01:43, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- Keep: Of cause a radio drama is an audio drama and vice versa. Please look up "Synonyms". --74.61.99.189 02:00, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- A synonym means not that a word means to 100% the same, it could be that a word is to 60% the same. Sorry, so simple is the thing not. --Soenke Rahn 12:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- wouldn't you lose the translations if you delete this? They appear to be single words. 65.93.12.65 08:15, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
- Yes, but we tend not to keep English entries on the basis of what other languages interpret them as. Occitan for example as a single word for grow a beard. Mglovesfun (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
- I would also against the delete. But I suppose that there are a lot of questions to this entry, which should be named on the discussion page (of the lexem) and possibly the problem will solved, possibly later. But I must say that I am not a native speaker. --Soenke Rahn 12:45, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
definition edit
Is the definition
- dramatized, purely acoustic performance, broadcast on radio or published on audio media, such as tape or CD
correct and complete?
Or isn't it more like
- (originally and literally, strict sense) dramatized, purely acoustic performance, broadcast on radio
- (by extension, broad sense) dramatized, purely acoustic performance, broadcast on radio, or published on audio media, such as tape or CD, or published on the internet [e.g. on youtube or made available as mp3 files to download somehwere]
?
And if it's "usually uncountable" - is it? -, isn't it more like
- (uncountable or usually uncountable) 'some kind of genre' [like music and art are 'genres']
- (countable) 'some piece of work belonging to this genre' [like songs and paintings are 'pieces']
similar to www.dictionary.com/browse/drama?s=t 's definitions of drama as
- "a composition in prose or verse ..." (a 'piece')
- "the branch of literature having such compositions ..." (the 'genre')
and to en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/drama 's definition of drama as
- "A play ..." (a 'piece')
- "Plays as a genre or style of literature" (the 'genre')
?
The entry drama could have such a distinction too as
- "A composition ..." (a 'piece')
- "Theatrical plays in general" (the 'genre'?)
.
With a distinction of 'genre' (uncountable) and 'piece' (countable) and with a distinction of strict sense and broad sense, there could be four senses instead of just one. As for some of the examples given in the entry:
- "radio drama had a huge popular audience" -- this should refer to the genre, not to a piece
- "our live "Seeing Ear Theatre" radio drama" -- this should refer to a piece, not to the genre, and it should refer to the broad sense as internet radio shouldn't be radio (from a technical point of view, where radio is relaed to radio waves)
- "Radio dramas in America are online" -- this should refer to a piece, not to the genre, and it should refer to the broad sense
PS:
- 2006, Richard James Gray II, French radio drama from the interwar to the postwar period (1922-1973), p.5 (repositories.lib.utexas.edu/bitstream/handle/2152/2495/grayiir41468.pdf) should explicitly make a distinction between strict and broad sense: "The term “radio” restricts its application exclusively to dramas produced and broadcast for that particular medium. The term “audio” suggests anything aural or acoustic. Dramas broadcast via the Internet are audio dramas, but not necessarily radio dramas."