Template talk:abbreviation-old

lang

Can we change

[[Category:{{#if:{{{1|}}}|{{{1}}} a|A}}bbreviations

to

[[Category:{{#if:{{{1|}}}{{{lang|}}}|{{{lang|1}}} a|A}}bbreviations

?—msh210℠ 16:36, 4 September 2008 (UTC)

Done (though with not that exact wikitext). And it now also accepts language codes. --Bequw → ¢ • τ 22:37, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

Usage

When adding an abbreviations, does one add the expanded form as a separate entry? or is the abbreviation a redirect to the expanded name? (Also, where is the article for this template, about "How" and "when" it should be used. -- IrishDragon 06:42, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

abbreviated as

For the "long form" of the abbreviation, shouldn't there be an "abbreviated as" template? See for example frequently asked questions and initial public offering— This unsigned comment was added by John1deer (talk • contribs) at 13:55, 17 February 2009.

There's been some discussion about where to put these, and no consensus AFAICT. Ideas I recall being put forth are: on the inflection line, under "Synonyms", under "Alternative forms". Until a format is agreed on, one can't templatify that format. (I suppose one can templatify an unagreed-on format, though.)—msh210℠ 18:03, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

clarification on deletion

I am not clear on why this should be deleted. The alternative (abbreviation of) is broken, according to talk on that template. This template is used by hundreds of pages . . . which is no reason to keep, but is a reason for explaining deletion. Thanks for clarifying. --Ceyockey 05:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

RFD discussion

The following information passed a request for deletion.

This discussion is no longer live and is left here as an archive. Please do not modify this conversation, but feel free to discuss its conclusions.

---

Note, previous title was Template:abbreviation

I just don't understand why this template was ever created; instead of:

==={{abbreviation-old|foo}}===
'''{{subst:PAGENAME}}'''

Just use

===Abbreviation===
{{infl|foo|abbreviation}}

How would this be different from a template called say, {{verb}}, {{noun}} or {{adverb}}? Oh, it does link to an appendix, though I (personally) dislike links in headers as distracting, though apparently they can also cause browser problems. But I've never witnessed that. Mglovesfun (talk) 13:16, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Useful (and in fact used) for categorizing in etymology sections: "===Etymology=== {{abbreviation|Langname}} of...".​—msh210℠ (talk) 22:37, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

I suppose, though {{abbreviation of}} seems to cover that. Mglovesfun (talk) 22:52, 16 March 2011 (UTC)

Or just ban it in headers then. Perhaps that's why it was created; for definition lines and etymologies. Mglovesfun (talk) 15:01, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

No problem banning it in headers. Keep.​—msh210℠ (talk) 20:51, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I've come across entries using {{present participle of}} or {{past participle of}} in etymologies. By way of hypothetical example, interesting:

==English==

===Etymology===
{{present participle of|interest}}

===Adjective===
{{en-adj}}

# ...

I would simply switch the 'Etymology' head to 'Verb'. If this were intended to be a definition-line template it would now be redundant to {{abbreviation of}}. Mglovesfun (talk) 14:18, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

Totally agree: delete and use {{abbreviation of}} in definition lines. The appendix link can be added there, if people wish to keep it. And replace the ==={{abbreviation-old}}=== headers by real POS headers: every abbreviation has a POS, abbreviation is not a POS itself. H. (talk) 20:44, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

I support banning this from headers. —Ruakh_TALK 20:57, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Mglovesfun. But I would not use {{abbreviation of}} in definition lines (or only when this is the best possible definition). The abbreviation character is something of an etymological nature. Lmaltier (talk) 21:03, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

What's so bad about using it in headers...oppose. :p 50 Xylophone Players talk 18:55, 29 June 2012 (UTC)

I've updated some wikisyntax in this thread to avoid breakages. Apologies for editing other people's comments as a result. Mglovesfun (talk) 09:01, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

• Kept for lack of consensus and action. --Chicken is fun (talk) 15:50, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

RFD discussion: September–October 2019

The following information has failed Wiktionary's deletion process (permalink).

It should not be re-entered without careful consideration.

---

Template:abbreviation-old

"this is going to be deleted". Well, now the time has come. Also, Template:initialism-old --Vealhurl (talk) 10:57, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

I see it has already been nommed. --Vealhurl (talk) 10:58, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Deleted. Benwing2 (talk) 01:45, 4 October 2019 (UTC)