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—Ruakh_TALK 12:24, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

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You wrote that there's no such thing as ן׳. Can you support that claim? Or did you mean to request verification? I've certainly seen the term in use.—msh210℠ 00:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

yes I meant RFV. can you give an example were it's used? The word "אבן" doesn't mean "son of" and words in Hebrew are abbreviated by the first letter, not the last. Daniel B 08:28, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

For the record, this will easily pass RFV. If nothing else, Google Book Search pulls up hundreds of hits for "אברהם ן׳ עזרא" alone.

Re: The word "אבן" doesn't mean "son of": As I'm sure you're aware, a single spelling is often used for many Hebrew words. The fact that it's pronounced éven and means "stone" doesn't mean that it isn't also pronounced íbn and mean "son of".

—Ruakh_TALK 11:20, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

what is íbn? Daniel B 15:40, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

It's a loanword from Arabic (ابن (ibn)), cognate with native Hebrew (deprecated template usage) בֶּן־ (ben-), and widely used among Medieval Sferadim to form quasi-patronymics; for example, Abraham ibn Ezra, if he'd been born in a different time and place, could have been Abraham ben Ezra or Abraham Bar-Ezra. —Ruakh_TALK 15:47, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Based on Ruakh's cites (thanks, Ruakh), do you mind, דניאל, if I remove the {{rfd}} tag from the entry?—msh210℠ 15:59, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

don't mind. Daniel B 16:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. Done.—msh210℠ 16:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

this needs to be added to אבן. Daniel B 16:15, 26 May 2009 (UTC)

Done (though the inflection line may need tweaking).—msh210℠ 16:26, 26 May 2009 (UTC)