Talk:πΊπ°πΉππ°π
@Djkcel -- hey, I noticed you added the etymology as being derived through Greek, and I presume that was due to the fact that Wulfila translated from Greek, but the Goths had been in contact with Roman forces since far before Wulfila's time (from roughly the 230s AD) and indeed had been serving in the Roman army. Would the word not be borrowed directly from Latin at that stage (as with many other Gothic words that derive from Latin), rather than through Greek? β Kleio (t Β· c) 00:04, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
- Good question, and my original edit suggested that it entered Gothic through Byzantine/Medieval Greek from Latin, though CodeCat changed it to Ancient Greek (Ulfilas lived during the bridge between those two eras, so I think either would be fine). But my source on the Greek connection was Kluge, who says that kaiser was among the very earliest Latin words borrowed into Germanic - first by the Goths, who supposedly loaned it from the Byzantine Greeks after the fall of Rome. I'm not sure if it was already in the Gothic language a few hundred years before. Djkcel (talk) 02:28, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
Dropping of final -s
edit@Rua Hey, thanks for the correction, I didn't know that yet. Do you happen to know where to find more info on the -s being dropped? I've since noticed some other examples (baur, wair, stiur(?)), but it seems weird to me. Why does it happen? β Mnemosientje (t Β· c) 10:36, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Probably for the same reason it happens in Old Norse: assimilation. It's mentioned here: "Final -s drops when it immediately follows the combination (short vowel) + (consonantal r)." βRua (mew) 10:39, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you. I've actually skimmed that same page in the past, but it seems I need to revisit it more attentively. β Mnemosientje (t Β· c) 10:43, 26 September 2018 (UTC)