Talk:𑀆𑀅𑀅

Alternative forms and descendants trees

@Bhagadatta Since 𑀆𑀅 (āa) is an alternative form redirect and the exact pronunciation cannot be inferred from the spelling, should the descendants/derived terms be on the primary entry with {{q|< 𑀆𑀅 (āa)}}?

According to {{R:inc:Pischel}}, 𑀆𑀕𑀅 (āgaa), 𑀆𑀅𑀅 (āaa), 𑀆𑀬 (āya) and 𑀆𑀅 (āa) are Maharastri and 𑀆𑀕𑀬 (āgaya) is Ardhamagadhi. Should they move to Maharastri Prakrit: and Ardhamagadhi Prakrit: lines in the the descendants tree at आगत (āgata)? At {{R:inc:Woolner|11}} §2, the Sauraseni forms are 𑀆𑀕𑀤 (āgada) and 𑀆𑀅𑀤 (āada). Since 𑀘𑀉𑀝𑁆𑀞 (caüṭṭha) at चतुर्थ (caturtha) is labeled as Prk. by {{R:inc:Pischel}}, that could an example of having terms on both the Prakrit: line and the lines for Ardhamagadhi Prakrit: 𑀘𑀉𑀢𑁆𑀣 (caüttha) […] . Should the bullet point • be omitted before Ardhamagadhi Prakrit: […] ? Kutchkutch (talk) 10:55, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

@Kutchkutch: It's true that keeping the descendants on the original/lemma form's entry is the standard but the Konkani and Marathi descendants are in the derived terms section. I don't know how good {{q|< 𑀆𑀅 (āa)}} would look under derived terms (if it was under the plain descendants header, it'd look just fine), so I suggest we show Marathi आले (āle) and Konkani आयिल्लो (āyillo) as descended from *āaa-lla-a and *āaa-illa-a respectively instead of *āa-lla-a and *āa-illa-a as we have it now.

Thanks for the specific Prakrit forms - I did not check Pischel and could not find āgaä and āgada in Turner so I left those out. I'll make the changes.

Even the change at the descendants section at चतुर्थ (caturtha) is fine. Does that mean we'll now show 𑀘𑀉𑀢𑁆𑀣 (caüttha), 𑀘𑀉𑀝𑁆𑀞 (caüṭṭha) and 𑀘𑁄𑀢𑁆𑀣 (cottha) as "Prakrit" and then show the language specific forms again? -- 𝓑𝓱𝓪𝓰𝓪𝓭𝓪𝓽𝓽𝓪^{(𝓽𝓪𝓵𝓴)} 12:05, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

@Bhagadatta If one or more terms have no lect specification, the Prakrit: line could show all the terms to avoid confusion. If all the terms have lect specification, the Prakrit: line could possibly be left empty, but that may look inconsistent when compared to Prakrit: lines with terms. Kutchkutch (talk) 09:28, 17 April 2021 (UTC)