Talk:Stavangers

Latest comment: 1 year ago by This, that and the other in topic RFD discussion: July 2021–December 2022

RFD discussion: July 2021–December 2022

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Genitive forms are not used in Norwegian Bokmål on Wiktionary, there are no specific templates for it, it is not included in any main entry (in the inflection) and as far as I can see, this is the only noun which actually has an entry for it (though it is not even linked from the main entry).

If we're going to include genitive forms then we need to change the entire inflection table and include them for every noun in every form, or we could just delete this one and continue as usual. Supevan (talk) 11:34, 5 July 2021 (UTC)Reply

Same with endes Supevan (talk) 17:01, 20 July 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Supevan I found a number of Norwegian genitive entries actually: akrobatenes, akrobatens, akrobaters, alles, allverdsens, barnets, blingsenes, blingsens, blingsers, brødblingsenes, brødblingsens, brødblingsers, dagsens, datidas, datidens, dels, dømes, endes, faens, fjells, Herrens, høves, jodlerens, jodlernes, jodlers, kvelds, laugas, laugenes, laugets, laugs, livsens, martyrs, mors, møtes, nausts, reptilas, salgs, saus, sengs, sjøs, spotteres, spyds, Stavangers, steins, synderes, ugagns, ugudeliges, vertsmaskinenes, vertsmaskinens, vertsmaskiners, vertsmaskins
Unfortunately there is no {{wgping}} for Norwegian, but I seem to remember User:Donnanz being interested in this language... This, that and the other (talk) 10:54, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I can't remember being guilty of entering genitive forms in Norwegian - as all you have to do is add "s" (no apostrophe is used) it would be rather futile. But other editors may have a different opinion. DonnanZ (talk) 11:09, 2 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
@Donnanz, @Supevan Is the Norwegian -s a clitic, like English -'s? If so, I would suggest mirroring our handling of English -'s and deleting all of these genitive form-of entries with a note added at WT:ANO. This, that and the other (talk) 03:02, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Yes, it is the same as the English -'s, we just don't use the apostrophe in Norwegian. Most of these entries are pointless..
However some of these forms use the archaic genitive forms, and live on in specific expressions. "Sjøs" for example is from the set expression "til sjøs" (to the sea), you would always have the genitive -s here, no matter what. Same with (til) fjells, kvelds, fots, salgs, sengs, dømes and dels. Those entries should definitely exist, but the rest is a bit like having English entries for "cat's", "hamburger's" and "London's". Supevan (talk) 07:43, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
I agree with Supevan. DonnanZ (talk) 08:09, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Reply
Seems reasonable. I'll tag a few for deletion, and if there is no objection, we can delete the rest after a short delay. This, that and the other (talk) 09:55, 3 July 2022 (UTC)Reply

RFD-deleted, along with a bunch of other Norwegian genitives. This, that and the other (talk) 03:31, 3 December 2022 (UTC)Reply

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