Talk:barne-

Latest comment: 7 years ago by Smuconlaw in topic RFD discussion: June–August 2016

RFD discussion: June–August 2016 edit

 

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Another one in the same category as tron- (above). In this case an "e" is added rather than subtracted. The derived terms can be moved to barn (Bokmål) and barn (Nynorsk), some are there already. DonnanZ (talk) 14:05, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

On second thoughts, there may be a case for keeping it, as it is often used in terms as barne- og (whatever), and non-native users may not be aware that it is derived from barn [1]. DonnanZ (talk) 14:44, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply

  • Again, considering the parallels in German, I'm leaning toward delete. I don't want us to have entries like Gesellschafts- on the basis of "Gesellschafts- und Wirtschaftskommunikation". It's simply part of knowing the language to know that a phrase like that is short for "Gesellschaftskommunikation und Wirtschaftskommunikation" (both of which are valid entries). I don't think it's a dictionary's job to spell that out explicitly, and I expect the lemmings (for Norwegian as well as German) will agree with me. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 15:10, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
    I know what you're saying, but with barne- being much shorter it may not be as obvious as Gesellschafts- and other examples. Anyway, we'll see. DonnanZ (talk) 16:07, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
    Using specific forms for compounds is a general part of Germanic grammar. We could consider to treat the compound-form as just another inflected form of the words, like plural or genitive forms and what have you, which then might warrant an entry for all of them. But as it is right now, I don't see them deserving entries themselves. Korn [kʰũːɘ̃n] (talk) 16:24, 6 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Delete this and other forms like it that add letters or merely add a hyphen. The average reader should be able to figure out that "barne- og dagbok" should be looked up as "barnebok" and "dagbok", and on a technical level (to satisfy robots and linguists), we cover this with entries for barn and the infix -e-, like "Gesellschafts-" is covered by Gesellschaft and -s-. Forms that remove letters, like tron-, have a stronger claim to being prefixes. - -sche (discuss) 08:12, 7 June 2016 (UTC)Reply
Deleted. — SMUconlaw (talk) 18:40, 18 August 2016 (UTC)Reply


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