Talk:batcape
Latest comment: 9 years ago by Dan Polansky in topic RFV discussion: November–December 2014
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Delete. More bupkis from a self-confessed WF sock, -- · (talk) 20:33, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Did you try Google books ("batcape")? This word does exist, it's used in a number of books, in English, in French, etc. Most uses are capitalized, but not all of them. Lmaltier (talk) 20:42, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Remarks: this word seems to be capitalised (Batcape); the definition is dubious (in reality, it seems to refer to the specific cape that is part of a Batman costume, not just any cape); and I've added two possible citations, though they aren't terribly satisfactory. Equinox ◑ 21:09, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think this needs citations which are "independent of reference to that universe" per WT:FICTION Siuenti (talk) 21:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- Would we need to remove the 1st sense in vampire unless we find uses of this sense without reference to the vampire universe? Or fully remove the page cyclops if there was no 2nd sense? This rule seems absurd, and inconsistent with the basic rule all words in all languages. It's normal to exclude words created by an obscure novelist in one of its novels and not used alsewhere, because they cannot be considered as words of the language, but this is not the case here. Anyway, it's not a fictional word, as batcapes are actually existing objects, even if the words refers to fiction. Lmaltier (talk) 18:03, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- A "fictional universe" refers to a specific fictional universe, usually created and owned by one author or organization. If there were three entirely separate and independent fictional universes that all used the word "batcape", I would consider it attested. --WikiTiki89 18:22, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- Would we need to remove the 1st sense in vampire unless we find uses of this sense without reference to the vampire universe? Or fully remove the page cyclops if there was no 2nd sense? This rule seems absurd, and inconsistent with the basic rule all words in all languages. It's normal to exclude words created by an obscure novelist in one of its novels and not used alsewhere, because they cannot be considered as words of the language, but this is not the case here. Anyway, it's not a fictional word, as batcapes are actually existing objects, even if the words refers to fiction. Lmaltier (talk) 18:03, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
- I think this needs citations which are "independent of reference to that universe" per WT:FICTION Siuenti (talk) 21:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
- RFD out of scope: WT:RFV#batcape created. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:25, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
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Any attesting quotations for this lowercase spelling of would-be English word? If "Batcape" as opposed to "batcape" is attested (Citations:Batcape), this can be moved to Batcape, or deleted otherwise. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:24, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- I've added three quotations of the lowercase spelling to batcape and four quotations of the uppercase spelling (two of which were originally at batcape) to Citations:Batcape. It's pretty clear from Google Books that "Batcape" is the most common spelling, so I think the main entry should be there, and batcape should be an "alternative spelling of" entry. —Mr. Granger (talk • contribs) 15:00, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
- RFV passed; attesting quotations at batcape, thank to Mr. Granger. Someone may yet want to turn batcape to alternative capitalization, form or whatever words we use in that situation. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:18, 5 December 2014 (UTC)