Talk:drunk
Latest comment: 8 years ago by -sche in topic RFM discussion: October 2015–February 2016
Shouldn't the pronunciation be /dɻʌŋk/ instead of /dɻʌɳk/? It seems to me that the place of articulation of the nasal is in the same place as the k, making it a velar nasal, which is written ŋ. See w:IPA for clarification.
- Lambda 08:00, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- You're quite right! I think that IPA said "drunyk". The "ɻ" is also wrong. That's some kind of narrow transcription of an allophone or dialectal "r" which is always written /r/ in phonemic transcriptions. Hippietrail 10:09, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
- I think I put "ɻ" in there since the r is almost not audible (comparing to other languages). Sorry, I was trying to learn this IPA transcription, when I entered those transcriptions. I would say that almost any r in English could be transcribed as "ɻ" Polyglot 11:19, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
Note that adjectives used before nouns are called "attributive", ones used after verbs such as "to be" are called "predicative". Hippietrail 10:09, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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But I don't know which one to merge them to. —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 01:11, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- I don't think they mean the same thing. A drunk is someone who is drunk at a particular time. A drunkard is drunk many times. —CodeCat 01:16, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Drunk can be used both of someone who is intoxicated at the reference time and of one who is habitually or frequently intoxicated. I would think that merging everything into drunk would be better as it would facilitate contributors' making the same distinction in translations. DCDuring TALK 03:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- We should put the translations at the word that is most commonly used to convey a meaning. So is "drunk" or "drunkard" more common to refer to someone who's often drunk? —CodeCat 00:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- Why? By some abstract concept of correctness? Are you going to do the work to separate the various homonyms and definitions of drunk? DCDuring TALK 10:14, 20 October 2015 (UTC)
- We should put the translations at the word that is most commonly used to convey a meaning. So is "drunk" or "drunkard" more common to refer to someone who's often drunk? —CodeCat 00:13, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
- I've never heard "drunk" as a noun meaning "someone who is drunk", only as a noun with the same meaning as "drunkard". With the latter meaning, I support merging the definitions. If the former meaning exists, it should have a separate translation table from the latter meaning. --WikiTiki89 21:25, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Drunk can be used both of someone who is intoxicated at the reference time and of one who is habitually or frequently intoxicated. I would think that merging everything into drunk would be better as it would facilitate contributors' making the same distinction in translations. DCDuring TALK 03:13, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose merging the translations. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:48, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
- Care to give a reason? --WikiTiki89 21:26, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
- Merge per DCD. - -sche (discuss) 01:30, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
Done. - -sche (discuss) 03:44, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
