Talk:pronoun

Tamil translation

• Tamil: பெயர்ச்சொல் (ta) (peyarccol)

That is also given as translation of 'noun'. So either one translation is wrong, or the term is ambiguous making both translations (somewhat) wrong. [1] gives terms like:

• பெயர்ச்சொல் (cp. பெயர் = name, சொல் = word) - 'noun'
• பிரதி பெயர்ச்சொல் - pronoun
• பெயருரிச்சொல் - adjective

Internet gives similar and different terms (e.g. [2], [3], [4], [5], [6]). [7] explains "பெயருரிச்சொல்" as "peyar-uri-c-col n. id.+. Adjective, as qualifying a noun" which sounds like "attributive adjective". Multiple terms and somewhat stranger terms could also be because of different native grammar (cp. en:w:Tamil grammar#Auxiliaries) and preservation of traditional terminology (as if using Aristoteles' terminology which is similar to name/noun, word/verb, joiner).
Maybe the translation could be something like

• பெயர்ச்சொல் (Tamil grammar or terminology, umbrella term), பிரதி பெயர்ச்சொல் (European grammar or terminology)

-84.161.52.37 14:13, 24 April 2018 (UTC)

Hello 84.161!! Nice to follow your comments (although: it is Tamil to me) sarri.greek (talk) 05:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)

Subsense

Is "my pronouns are..." really a separate sense? I'm not sure. (Is "my name is Robert or Rob" a different sense of "name" than usual?) People say things like "pronouns in bio" where it'd be unexpected if the bio just said "I work for Aldi, they pay alright", i.e. technically pronouns but not what people usually take the phrase to mean... but how much of that is lexical and how much is cultural knowledge? (If someone says "what are his politics?" and you say "he's big on 'religious liberty' and rails against 'government tyranny'", that could describe a Quaker who opposes conscription, but the buzzwords connote something else.)
I do see people say things that only make sense if they think pronouns are trans-only, like "I don't use pronouns" (using pronouns in that sentence) or "the Bible doesn't contain pronouns", but I'm not sure if that's best viewed as a separate sense; in prior decades some straight people would say "I don't have a sexual orientation, I'm normal" as if "sexual orientation" meant "non-heterosexual orientation", today some cis people say "I don't have a gender (I'm just normal)" ("only trans people have genders"), etc, i.e. some people reject whole concepts.
I see the point at Talk:pronouns that MW has a separate definition for this, but their examples ("nonbinary [people] use 'they' and 'their' pronouns") plainly seem to be the main sense. Ehhh... - -sche (discuss) 04:33, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

"My pronouns" means "the ones I want others to use about me" and not (say) "ones I have coined" or "ones that I use to describe other people". This seems to go beyond sense 1. Equinox ◑ 04:40, 16 September 2021 (UTC)