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You have more knowledge of PB of course, but this seems a bit backwards? 21:04, 18 September 2016 CodeCat (talk | contribs) m . . (360 bytes) (0) . . (CodeCat moved page Reconstruction:Proto-Brythonic/dik to Reconstruction:Proto-Brythonic/dig) (undo | thank)


So it literally did this:

dikos > dig > dic

Why did they go back to a "k" ending?

UtherPendrogn (talk)21:38, 18 September 2016

The spelling does not necessarily reflect what we would expect. In Old Irish, it's well known that c can stand for /k/ and /g/, and presumably the same might happen to early Welsh spelling too. What matters more is the expected outcome of -k- between vowels in Brythonic. It would always become -g-.

CodeCat21:40, 18 September 2016

I know that k and g are interchangeable, but it looks backwards.

UtherPendrogn (talk)21:42, 18 September 2016

Yeah it does, but it's how it is. Besides, there are examples of historically sound changes being actually undone later, rather than being purely a spelling artefact. Grimm's law in Germanic can shift PIE t to þ, then Verner's law can shift þ to d, and then the High German Consonant Shift can shift d back to t again.

CodeCat21:46, 18 September 2016

Right, thanks.

UtherPendrogn (talk)21:49, 18 September 2016
 
UtherPendrogn (talk)22:19, 18 September 2016

If you can't find any descendants, you should probably not create the entry. That's what I do anyway. Angr or Anglom might know some.

CodeCat22:22, 18 September 2016

Matasović seems reliable, but I see your point. I'll refrain from adding descendantless reconstructions in the future.

UtherPendrogn (talk)22:32, 18 September 2016
 

Matasović seems reliable, but I see your point. I'll refrain from adding descendantless reconstructions in the future.

UtherPendrogn (talk)22:32, 18 September 2016

By the way, {{R:cel:Matasovic 2009}} is a pre-made template for citing Matasovic. If you find yourself using a source often, I advise creating a reference template to allow for quick and standardized citation.

JohnC501:44, 19 September 2016

Thanks, but do notice I'm using a revised copy and not the original.

UtherPendrogn (talk)05:18, 19 September 2016

Oh, I did, but I'm telling you for when you use the main dictionary. As the second edition does not yet exist, I may create a separate template for the addenda or perhaps one for the whole first edition with addenda. Regardless, when you use a source a bunch, please think about making a template. Also, I've created {{R:cel:Delamarre}} for you. —JohnC5 06:03, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

JohnC506:03, 19 September 2016

Thanks!

UtherPendrogn (talk)06:20, 19 September 2016