Finnish allative is NOT llex

Finnish allative is NOT llex

Finnish allative ending is lle and not llex.

Please remove the x

I see from discussion on this page that the x is intended to signify a gemination.... but the gemination effect applies to ALL instances when a Finnish word ends in a single e- and rules do not allow for the e to be elongated to ee. For instance, the polite request "tulepa tänne" (come here) is pronounced as if it were written "tuleppa tänne". Your inclusion of a marker for this effect is inappropriate and confusing to the average reader. Even a Finn would not understand this llex terminology unless he or she is also an expert in phonetics. Or else a fan of Daniel Abondalo ;) ~~

87.92.144.10313:06, 24 July 2015

CodeCat, you have done marvellous things for the Finnish templates, but I completely agree with the Anon commentator that you have erred on this one. The little x'es are merely confusing users. Be so kind and remove them.

Hekaheka (talk)05:11, 13 August 2015

Ok, I've removed it.

CodeCat11:40, 13 August 2015

Thx.

Hekaheka (talk)06:18, 16 August 2015

"the gemination effect applies to ALL instances when a Finnish word ends in a single e"

Well, that is just not true. There is no clear rule to determine the presence or absence of the gemination. It should be indicated in a dictionary.

Yuhani (talk)14:54, 20 September 2015

One should also be consistent. Why should this be the one and only finesse of Finnish pronunciation that we indicate in the declension table? Wiktionary should also be consistent between languages. We indicate some features of the pronunciaton in Russian and Latin inflection tables but not in French or German ones. Why?

Pronunciation hints may also be confusing. Let's take the word перестройка (perestrojka, perestroika) as an example. Looking only at the translation table in the English entry one might believe the word is spelled "перестро́йка". The netry itself doesn't make things easier. The correct spelling only appears in the page header.

To sum up, I believe it's better to keep spelling and pronunciation in different sections of the entry.

Hekaheka (talk)06:44, 18 October 2015