Pronunciation of hostis humani generis edit

There’s a stressed schwa. — Ungoliant (falai) 18:18, 18 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

I'm not really sure about the pronunciation of that phrase since I have never used it, maybe the stress goes on the first syllable of that word? ACleaningPerson (talk) 18:34, 18 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
I think the pronunciation may be "fixed" (as it were) now. ACleaningPerson (talk) 18:40, 18 July 2017 (UTC)Reply
Thanks! — Ungoliant (falai) 19:08, 18 July 2017 (UTC)Reply

drive edit

Why should an allophonic transcription be removed? It's common practice to include common allophonic pronunciations in brackets (see, e.g. tree) and English entries often include extra IPA transcriptions indicating the words' pronunciations under various mergers (pen, whale, marry, caught). I suppose if carried to extremes, the inclusion of all possible allophone combinations could lead to chaos, but surely all the dr- and tr-initial words should contain their realization as /d͡ʒɹ/ and /t͡ʃɹ/. Generally the rule seems to be that the main IPA transcription in the entry, between slashes, is phonemic only, whereas transcriptions in square brackets are more strictly phonetic (which is why they note aspiration of word-initial unvoiced consonants before a vowel, for instance, despite that being the rule in English). I think it's very valuable to make note of the "jrives" and "chrees" out there, which are largely unrecognized by the standard dictionaries. - Aperiarcam

I removed the pronunciation as I thought that the distinction could be noted elsewhere (which it is but requires looking for it elsewhere). I guess my actions were quite pointless and too rash so I will restore the pronunciation seeing as that word and that pronunciation are both common. ACleaningPerson (talk) 22:46, 18 March 2018 (UTC)Reply