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Again, welcome! Nadando 18:16, 15 October 2009 (UTC)


The preference is for entries that briefly state which form of the word it is with a link back to the main entry. I did an example of what you might want at (deprecated template usage) wedirs, tho I am unsure whether Middle English should have Category:Middle English plurals, Category:Middle English noun forms, or both. My gut says just noun forms, but right now only the plural category exists. Probably ought to bring that up at the Beer parlor to get input from others. For languages where there can be tens of forms, redirects can be acceptable as a placeholder, but the form of entry I did at (deprecated template usage) wedirs is still considered preferable, since another language might use that spelling for another purpose. By the way, you could probably use {{PAGENAME}} to eliminate the need for the first parameter. — Carolina wren discussió 04:36, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I took your advice on the use of {{l|enm|{{{1}}}|sc=Latinx}} for the Template:enm-decl-noun. I'd also like to ask you a question if you don't mind. While I feel as though I read this somewhere in the FAQ, I thought I would ask your opinion to confirm. Do you find that there is a preference for separate entries regarding each declension of a word or that when searching for a declension you are directed to the root? You're last message seemed to indicate the former. If that is so, and the preference is for separate entries, I feel as though I'd like to alter the preexisting Old English Template (Template:ang-decl-noun) with the {{l|enm|{{{1}}}|sc=Latinx}} code as well.--Ganymede 02:46, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

I do generally watch talk pages I reply on for a while. I made one small change to the template you were building. We have a namespace Appendix: that is to be used for things such as articles on the declension of nouns in a language, so I prepended it to the redlink you had in the template. You also will want to have the links for the forms in the declension point directly to the Middle English listing instead of simply using {{Latinx|[[{{{1}}}]]}}. There are two ways of doing so:

  • The first is to use old fashioned direct coding, which since this is a template would be the way I'd do it here:
    {{Latinx|[[{{{1}}}#Middle English|{{{1}}}]]}}
  • The second would be to use the {{l}} template:

I'd geneally use the second method in an actual entry, since its shorter to type, and {{l}} has some other useful tricks it can do but it has some additional overhead that isn't needed inside a template to make things easier for an editor. (Since Latinx could be changed in the future as font support changes, there's no reason to eliminate that call. — Carolina wren discussió 01:53, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Hopefully you're watching this. Thanks for the advice, I am new here and still getting the hang of things. --Ganymede 23:52, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

I'd like to point out two things concerning your recent edit to this entry.

  • The first is that there exists a template, {{infl}} to make formatting the inflection line and assigning an entry to a part of speech category easier. In this case {{infl|enm|preposition}} would do the trick, since enm is the ISO 639 code for Middle English. {{infl}} has other tricks it can perform as well, but those are (or should be) documented on its talk page. Use of the template is not mandatory, but it can be convenient, as it involves less typing.
  • The second is that as you may have noticed already, the category should have been created with preposition uncapitalized. There's also a template, {{poscatboiler}}, used to generate a standard blurb and the category links for the part of speech categories.

I've already taken care of the needed corrections, but wanted to let you know why I did them. — Carolina wren discussió 23:25, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

But note that, if you are planning to help out a lot around here, and to add many Middle English entries, it is possible for us to help you set up a dedicated Middle English template for each major part of speech, tailored to make entries easy to code.
Also, I'll point you to User:Widsith, who is one of our most experienced editors, and who adds more Old English entries than just about anybody else. If you have questions specific to format, orthography, etc. in Old English entries, he will be more likely to be able to answer those questions than almost anyone here. --EncycloPetey 03:51, 18 December 2009 (UTC)