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The etymology of the word Orja in Finnish is related to the Modern Persian word for slave Barde from the Iranic word Warjama from Proto-Indo-Iranian Warjam ultimately from Proto-Indo-European Wérǵom (work). When you look at the Old Persian word Warjama, you can see the semantic shifts to the various words for slave in Uralic languages like Finnish, Estonian etc: Orja, Orjama, Ori, Ver, Var The Wikipedia page is coming up with a baseless theory regarding it being from the word Aryan. There is zero evidence of this. Whereas the actual word for slave in Iranic languages and its etymology is tied directly to the variations in Finnish and other Finno-Ugric languages. Parszaban (talk) 16:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
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I ask admins User:AryamanA User:Vininn126 User:BigDom to please look into this disparaging and inaccurate page on the Finnish word Orja being inaccurately tied to the word Aryan which is the word for Indo-Iranians, my own people. Wikipedia is supposed to be a source for factual information not hearsay or baseless theories. I am being blocked for simply posting the accurate etymology for the Finnish word Orja.
The etymology of the word Orja in Finnish is related to the Modern Persian word for slave Barde from the Iranic word Warjama from Proto-Indo-Iranian Warjam ultimately from Proto-Indo-European Wérǵom (work). When you look at the Old Persian word Warjama, you can see the semantic shifts to the various words for slave in Uralic languages like Finnish, Estonian etc: Orja, Orjama, Ori, Ver, Var. The Wikipedia page is coming up with a baseless theory regarding it being from the word Aryan. There is zero evidence of this and is very offensive. Whereas the actual word for slave in Iranic languages and its etymology is tied directly to the variations in Finnish and other Finno-Ugric languages. Parszaban (talk) 16:41, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- The existing etymology, which you are clearly removing just because you do not like it, is sourced. Your etymology is "trust me bro". — SURJECTION / T / C / L / 20:31, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
- Your etymology is 100% false and based on zero evidence, only speculation.
- The etymology I provided is in plain-sight for everyone to view the evolution of the word slave from Iranic languages and the borrowing of the same word for slave in Iranic languages into Finno-Ugric languages. Not some non-sense racist contrive reasoning to tie it to a completely semantically different word.
- It is 100% clear the Modern Persian word for slave which is Barde from Middle Persian Wardag from Old Persian Warjama is 100% related to the same ancient Indo-Iranian term Warjam that Finno-Ugric languages borrowed for slave in different variations: Orja, Orjama, Ori, Ver, Var
- I asked other admins User:Mahagaja User:AryamanA User:Vininn126 User:BigDom User:Pulimaiyi to step in and see this propaganda be removed from the page and the real etymology linking it to the Iranic word for slave be inserted instead. Parszaban (talk) 00:36, 28 December 2023 (UTC)