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Again, welcome! —Svārtava ^{[t•c•u•r]} 07:30, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

"Earth and up-heaven"

I notice you're adding kennings/poetic formulas, so I have a suggestion for a useful entry you could make. The "earth and up-heaven" formula is attested in all Germanic languages where we have poetry; OHG, OE, OS, OIce., Runic Danish and Swedish. (You can find a comprehensive list in https://doi.org/10.1515/9783110431360-019) ᛙᛆᚱᛐᛁᚿᛌᛆᛌ ᛭ Proto-Norsing ᛭ Ask me anything 10:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion! (The link to your list is paywalled, but I listed instances I managed to find myself below). I've actually considered this formula, but the problem with creating entries for it is that the words are rarely contiguous, and there isn't really a POS category for "Formula." I'm having trouble finding examples from runic databases. Only the Old Saxon example below is contiguous.

Old Norse

Vǫluspá 3 — Ár var alda þar er Ýmir bygði, / vara sandr né sær né svalar unnir, / jǫrð fannsk æva né upphiminn, / gap var ginnunga, en gras hvergi.

Þrymskviða 2 — Ok hann þat orða alls fyrst of kvað: / “Heyrðu nú, Loki, hvat ek nú mæli / er eigi veit jarðar hvergi / né upphimins: áss er stolinn hamri!”

Vafþrúðnismál 20 — Seg þú þat it eina, ef þitt æði dugir / ok þú, Vafþrúðnir, vitir, hvaðan jǫrð of kom / eða upphiminn fyrst, inn fróði jǫtunn.

Old English

Æcerbót 4 — Eorðan ic bidde and upheofon

Paris Psalter 75a-6b — Æt fruman þú, drihten, geworhtest / eorþan frætwe and upheofen

(Potentially connected: Christ & Satan 163a-6b — Éalá drihtenes þrym! Éalá duguða helm! / Éalá meotodes miht! Éalá middaneard! / Éalá dæg léohta! Éalá dréam godes! / Éalá engla þréat! Éalá upheofen!)

Old High German

Wessobrunner Prayer 2 — Dat ero ni was noh ûfhimil

Old Saxon

Hêliand 2886 — erðe endi uphimil wuduweard (talk) 07:17, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Here's the list from that source:

1. eorðan ic bidde | and upheofon
2. eorðan eallgrene | ond upheofon (Andreas v. 798)
3. eorþan mid hire beorgum | ond upheofon torhtne mid his tunglum (Christ v. 967–968)
4. ero ni uuas | noh ufhimil (Wessobrunner Prayer)
5. thit uueroldriki, ertha | endi upphimil (Heliand v. 2885–2886)
6. jǫrð fannsk æva | né upphiminn (Vǫluspá 3:5–6)
7. hvaðan jǫrð um kom | eða upphiminn | fyrst, inn fróði jǫtunn (Vafþrúðnismál 20:4–6)
8. er eigi veit | jarðar hvergi | né upphimins: | áss er stolinn hamri (Þrymskviða 2:5–7)
9. jǫrð dúsaði | ok upphiminn (Oddrúnargrátr 17:5–6)
10. iǫrð bið ec varða | oc upphimin (Ribe rune-stick)
11. iǫrð s[c]al rifna oc upphiminn (Skarpåker rune-stone)

ᛙᛆᚱᛐᛁᚿᛌᛆᛌ ᛭ Proto-Norsing ᛭ Ask me anything 14:47, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you! It still looks like it would be difficult to add this formula in full to Wiktionary given its format, but maybe I can make sure there are entries for upphiminn etc. with some of these quotations and mention the formula in usage notes. wuduweard (talk) 16:40, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

I'm still relatively new to editing Wiktionary. Are terms with ellipses accepted, e.g. jǫrð… upphiminn? wuduweard (talk) 16:44, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

I've been here for a year but never had to deal with the issue. I'll just advise you to be bold. ᛙᛆᚱᛐᛁᚿᛌᛆᛌ ᛭ Proto-Norsing ᛭ Ask me anything 10:27, 17 December 2021 (UTC)