Wiktionary:Votes/pl-2015-12/Translations/diff

Translations

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English entries (except those for inflected forms) usually have at least one Translations section with translations into all languages.[1]

Some important points concerning what translations should be added:

  • ONLY add translations that you are CERTAIN of. If you aren’t familiar with a language, or aren’t sure of a particular translation, it is far better not to add it than to risk adding an incorrect translation.
  • NEVER use automatic translation software to generate translations from English into a language you don’t speak. Automatic translations into English are likewise problematic. Translation software rarely gives accurate results.
  • DO NOT COPY from translating dictionaries (bilingual or multilingual) as this may constitute copyright violation. This applies to dictionaries both in print form and online. Dictionaries that are out of copyright may be used.

Here is an example (a shortened excerpt from the entry orange) illustrating some of the conventions:

{{trans-top|fruit of the orange tree}}
* French: {{t|fr|orange|f}}
* German: {{t|de|Apfelsine|f}}, {{t|de|Orange|f}}
* Japanese: {{t|ja|オレンジ|tr=orenji}}
{{trans-mid}}
* Russian: {{t|ru|апельси́н|m}}
* Serbo-Croatian:
*: Cyrillic: {{t|sh|на̀ра̄нџа|f}}, {{t|sh|помо̀ра̄нџа|f}}
*: Roman: {{t|sh|nàrāndža|f}}, {{t|sh|pomòrāndža|f}}
{{trans-bottom}}

{{trans-top|colour of an orange}}
* German: {{t|de|Orange|n}}
* Hebrew: {{t|he|כתום|m|alt=כתום \ כָּתֹם|tr=katóm}}
{{trans-mid}}
* Latvian: {{t|lt|oranžs|m}}
{{trans-bottom}}

Here are the collapsible tables that are the result of the above wiki markup:

Concerning which entries should have a Translation section:

  • Only English entries should have Translation sections. Foreign-language entries (including Translingual) should not have Translations sections; they link back to their English counterparts in the definitions. Any translation between two foreign languages is best handled on the Wiktionaries in those languages.
  • Only English lemmas, and not inflected forms, should have translations. It follows that some entries like building have lemma and non-lemma senses in the same page. The noun building should have translations, but the present participle of build should not.[2]

About the layout and wiki markup of the Translations section:

  • Each POS section should have its own "Translations" subsection when appropriate. A L3 POS section would have a L4 Translations subsection.
  • The Translations section consists of one or more collapsible translation tables, one for each sense of that POS section. For example, the entry bat has different translation tables for the senses of "small flying mammal" and "club used for striking a ball in sports".
  • A translation table lists the translations of that specific sense in all languages. The languages are organized alphabetically in two columns.
  • A translation table is formed by the templates {{trans-top}} (at the top), {{trans-mid}} (in the middle) and {{trans-bottom}} (at the bottom).[3]
  • Each language is placed on its own line. The line starts with a bullet point (generated by *), then the language name, followed by a colon and the translations into that language.
  • A few languages are grouped together. (for example, varieties of Arabic, Chinese and Norwegian) The group starts with the macrolanguage name on its own line. Each language variety is placed on its own line below the group name. The language vareties have an additional level of indentation without a bullet point (generated by *:).
  • Each translation uses one of these templates: {{t}} or {{t+}}. See them for their documentation. Both templates have the same parameters, which include additional information such as genders and transliteration. The difference between the two templates is that {{t+}} has an additional superscript link between parentheses — like this: (fi) — to the respective foreign-language Wiktionary.[4][5][6]
  • Different translations in the same language are separated from each other by commas.
  • At the end of each translation table, there is an "Add translation" JavaScript gadget, which automatically formats each new added translation with either {{t}} or {{t+}}, with the parameters filled appropriatelly. The gadget also places the language in the correct place in the alphabetical list of languages.
  • Every translation table should have a gloss at the top, supplied as the first (and only) argument of {{trans-top}}. There is a JavaScript gadget to edit the gloss directly, use the "±" button before the gloss. When the table is collapsed, only the gloss is visible. When the table is expanded, the available translations are shown.
  • In some cases, use {{trans-see}} instead of a translation table, to generate a link to another entry where the translation table is located.
  • The language names should not be linked.[7]

Concerning what information should be provided for each translation:

  • Add a transliteration or romanization of a translation into a language that does not use the Latin script, except for those languages where the romanization is supplied automatically by the software. See Wiktionary:Transliteration and romanization.
  • Provide the grammatical gender of the translations of nouns, if appropriate, giving the parameters m, f, n and c for “masculine”, “feminine”, “neuter” and “common” respectively to {{t}}.
  • References, pronunciation and detailed grammatical information for the translation should be on the foreign-language entry, rather than in the translation list.
  • Write each translation in full form; don't merge separate translations. For example, for the German for “ankle”, which is Knöchel or Fußknöchel, write:
rather than just combining the two as “(Fuß-) Knöchel” or similar, which is liable to be misunderstood.

About idioms, inflections and literal translations:

  • Don't translate an idiom word-for-word into another language, unless the literal translation is what is actually used in the target language. For example, the idiom “none of your beeswax” cannot be translated into German literally as “nicht dein Bienenwachs”, as this does not have the same meaning in German; an idiomatic translation is “nicht dein Bier” (which means, literally, “not your beer” in English).
  • When a translation in the target language is not a lemma form, use the alt parameter to display the translation but use the lemma forms as the page name, e.g. the Russian translation of asleep links to the Russian verb спать (spatʹ) ("to sleep") but displays "спящий" (lit. "sleeping"), which is an equivalent of "asleep".
* Russian: {{t+|ru|спать|alt=спя́щий}}
  • When there is no single word equivalent in the target language, use {{t}} with embedded wikilinks for the individual words. For example the Russian translation of livelihood:
* Russian: {{t|ru|[[средство|сре́дства]] [[к]] [[существование|существова́нию]]|n-p}}
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