Category talk:Toilet (room)
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When I saw that Category:Toiletry was under both Category:Bathing and Category:WC, I thought that was odd enough. Then I looked at Category:WC and saw Category:Rooms. You or I might giggle at this, but the joke is really on people trying to learn English from our dictionary, who were already confused enough by the euphemisms surrounding this subject matter. We need to change the category structure here, and do what we can to fix any miscategorization resulting from this. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:08, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
Done: toiletry means "an item used for personal hygiene or grooming" and does not directly relate to lavatories, so I parked it under "Category:Hygiene". — SMUconlaw (talk) 10:45, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
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We already have Wikisaurus:toilet with just about the same content. Anything in it can also either go in the parent category Category:Rooms or the subcategory Category:Toiletry. --WikiTiki89 23:23, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- I agree. —CodeCat 23:44, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
- Keep and fill. The toilet is an integral part of the world. --G23r0f0i (talk) 17:49, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
- Kept. It's a huge category! --Celui qui crée ébauches de football anglais (talk) 22:25, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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This just sounds too silly, at least from a North American perspective, and is really not something I would ever think to type in if looking for the category. Is there anyone to whom Category:en:Toilet would not be equally or more intuitive than Category:en:WC? —Μετάknowledgediscuss/deeds 18:21, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- I've complained about this one before, back when it was a template: I would hazard a guess that there are very few in the US that even know what WC refers to. It's also odd to see it categorized under Category:Rooms, especially since it's the only subcategory under it. That means that Category:Feces is a sub-sub-sub-category of Category:Buildings and structures- counterintuitive, to say the least. The other subcategory of Category:WC, Category:Toiletry is another oddity, since it has nothing to do with water closets, and contains Category:Cosmetics
- The problem is that all of the common English terms are euphemisms, and most have had considerable evolution in meaning, so there's nothing really clear and obvious worldwide. Strictly speaking, a water closet is the plumbing fixture, but has apparently come to mean the room that houses it. This is also true of toilet, and, I believe, loo, as well (our entry is ambiguous about that). At least water closet isn't ambiguous- toilet also refers to grooming, washing one's face, etc. Another US term, bathroom can refer to a room containing a bath, and lavatory can refer to a sink. Terms such as restroom, and ladies' room/men's room are vague enough that anyone who doesn't already know what they refer to will have no clue from the name. We need to figure out which term is most recognizable in all parts of the world.
- As I mentioned above, we really need to rethink this part of the category tree: feces have little to do with buildings, and cosmetics have nothing to do with feces. Chuck Entz (talk) 21:29, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
- What he said, basically. The whole structure needs redoing. Renard Migrant (talk) 17:46, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
- I propose moving Category:en:WC → Category:Toilet (room), as this is what Wikipedia uses (though it also has bathroom for rooms containing baths / showers). I also propose making Category:Feces a subcategory of Category:Animals, since it is not specific to humans. (Category:en:Feces, for example, contains manure.) - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 22:08, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
- If we do decide to move Category:WC, a bot will be useful to move all of its subcategories (Cateogry:<lang>:WC). - excarnateSojourner (talk | contrib) 01:59, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
Support a move to Category:Toilet (room) as this is more obvious. — Sgconlaw (talk) 04:48, 3 November 2022 (UTC)- Done. The rest of the structure still needs work, but I think it would be best to do that separately. — excarnateSojourner (talk · contrib) 02:31, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
