Talk:Wade-Giles

Wade–Giles- Hyphen v. Dash

As long as English Wikipedia uses 'Wade–Giles' and English Wiktionary uses 'Wade-Giles', there will always be some question in the minds of new editors like "how come though?", as can be demonstrated by the edit history here. Despite repeated requests for clarification, I for my part do not know (in a tl;dr kind of way) what the underlying rationales for both sites are. My simple objective is to get some kind of minimal-level recognition of the existence of some of the words generated by this system (or set of systems) out there in the face of incredible headwinds, and then go from there. My use of one alternative or the other on Wiktionary or Wikipedia should not be construed to endorse either alternative. In light of the authoritative statement from Entz, I will be changing things to the 'Wade-Giles' version when I come across them on Wiktionary, but I reserve the right to realize that Wikipedia was right all along and argue against that position one day. Most likely, I will just remain in ignorance on the issue; feel free to ping me in future years and give me any info you can. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 11:53, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

That applies only to the location of the entry and direct links to it, which is for practical reasons. You may notice that I added the dash to the headword, so that you see it that way on the page itself. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:39, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Chuck Entz Thanks for your response. Please check out this recent edit [1] I made. (I should have combined that minor edit with the larger one before it, but I forgot to.)
PROBLEM: Right now, there are 600 red links on Wiktionary that were blue links a day or two ago.[2]
QUESTION: Should I do what I did in that minor edit to every entry on this list: [3], or should I do something else like a pipe- for instance "Wade–Giles"? Just tell me what to do. Thanks again. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 14:18, 6 April 2022 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative You should not change the quotations (I checked them). If the book uses a hyphen, then use a hyphen, not a dash. J3133 (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@J3133 (1) Believe me, I want to perfectly duplicate whatever the original intent in any example sentence is. (2) But which sentences did you check? I'm sure I've been sloppy on this at various points. Thanks. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:22, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative: I checked all the citations with dashes I could find at Citations:Wade-Giles. Only The Routledge Encyclopedia of the Chinese Language used a dash. The citation from National Geographic Traveler: Taiwan did not have a link and I could not find it anywhere to check. J3133 (talk) 13:26, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

It sounds like I need to look at these cites again; please change anything you see. UPDATE: I don't know how this happened. I think I assumed that the dash was what the cites meant. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:43, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

@Geographyinitiative: I have included the form with the hyphen in the head. J3133 (talk) 14:56, 5 March 2023 (UTC)