Talk:bald eagle

RFD discussion: February–July 2023

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bald eagle

"This bird as a national symbol of the United States." Seems like a weird definition, but could be merged to the first perhaps. Drapetomanic (talk) 08:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Other dictionaries seem to include it in the main definition, or leave it out entirely, one has footnote kinda thing. Drapetomanic (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Keep , wikipedia has an article and it's widely used and covered anyway --- aren't we descriptivists instead of prescriptivists ? w:Bald Eagle Fishing Publication (talk) 14:06, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

the article just loaded too and it does seem to describe a distinct species or type not only usage or variant of the same meaning term i.e. eagle in english vs slavic languages sokol Fishing Publication (talk) 14:08, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

The RFD is for the specific sense "this bird as a national symbol of the United States", not for the entry bald eagle as a whole. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 14:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

It seems that the US-based OneLook dictionaries (eg, MW, AHD) do not mention use as a symbol of the US, whereas the UK-based ones (Collins, Cambridge, Oxford) do. DCDuring (talk) 14:32, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

My copies of Oxford and Collins say it's the national bird of the US. I say keep, but redefine "national symbol" as "national bird". DonnanZ (talk) 15:38, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Do your copies have separate senses for "a symbol" and "a bird"? Ioaxxere (talk) 16:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

No mention of symbol in those, but “bald eagle”, in Cambridge English Dictionary, Cambridge, Cambridgeshire: Cambridge University Press, 1999–present. says it is used as "a national symbol of the US". DonnanZ (talk) 16:27, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete: definitely not a separate sense. Could be mentioned in the main sense (the bird) but IMO don't bother. Equinox ◑ 15:41, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Strong delete. Who is adding this stuff? Ioaxxere (talk) 16:11, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete. Ultimateria (talk) 19:12, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

Delete. While the bald eagle is indeed a national symbol of the USA, the meaning of the term bald eagle is not “a national symbol of the USA”. It is like giving a sense “the birth year of Albert Einstein” for the term 1879 ; although 1879 is indeed the birth year of Albert Einstein, this is not the meaning of the term.  --Lambiam 10:51, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

Delete per Lambiam et al. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 11:48, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

I don't see Lambiam's vote or argument. DCDuring (talk) 18:41, 18 March 2023 (UTC)

@DCDuring: It's the one immediately above mine. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 21:13, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Delete per id. Akalendos (talk) 17:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)

• What make a symbol includable? Does the use of "a|the symbol of|for" make a definition not includable? See WT:TR#dove of peace. DCDuring (talk) 19:57, 24 March 2023 (UTC)

Keep, but maybe rework. The term "bald eagle" is used in senses like "Bald Eagle America". CitationsFreak: Accessed 2023/01/01 (talk) 23:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)

RFD-deleted. PUC – 12:39, 9 July 2023 (UTC)